From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Saving the selection before killing
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:27:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A055CB.6060003@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvzm1s2ueg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Stefan Monnier skrev:
>>>> Search for klipper in etc/PROBLEMS. Now this proposal will make Emacs
>>>> behave like a buggy klipper.
>>> Not at all. The bug in the klipper was that it requested the selection
>>> over and over. My code only causes the selection to be requested when it
>>> shifts from being owned by some other app to being owned by Emacs.
>>> I.e. there's no looping involved.
>
>> Looping was only part of the problem. Large selection was also a factor.
>
> I see no evidence that someone would have noticed something if it
> weren't looping.
>
You obviously haven't run Emacs over a slow (well say less than 1 Mbit/s) ssh
forward X connection.
>> If Emacs will request large selections from other programs, they can
>> become sluggish too.
>
> They'll be temporarily busy replying to Emacs just at those moments when you
> do a kill in Emacs (not all kills, of course). That is a far cry from
> "become sluggish".
Selections over slow links are painful right now. Emacs 22 is so much slower
in this regard than 21.x. For example, single click with mouse-1 sometimes
makes Emacs loop forever (C-g works though), redisplay for small changes can
take 10:s of seconds, popup of tool tip also takes several seconds. Your
proposal should be customizable, and preferrably default off, as it is a new
behaviour.
>
>>>> I'd be annoyed to see that in my kill ring.
>>> Please try it before jumping to conclusions.
>
>> I did try it. Open up an OO document with some pages, select all text in
>> the document. Move to Emacs, kill some text, C-y, M-y. I get the OO
>> document pasted as a big chunk of text.
>
> Yes, that's the expected behavior. Which part is *annoying*?
That when that amount of text gets drawn over a slow link it takes time. And
that when Emacs redisplays, it takes time. We are talking 10:s of seconds here.
> Another M-y will get you to the next kill-ring element.
Yes, but I have to wait several seconds before Emacs is responsive again.
> The same thing could have happened without my patch if you happened to have
> killed a big chunk of text in the past.
But then I would know it was in the kill ring.
Jan D.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-20 6:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-07-12 20:31 ` Saving the selection before killing (was: Selection not to be copied into kill-ring) Stefan Monnier
2007-07-12 20:45 ` Saving the selection before killing David Kastrup
2007-07-13 18:38 ` Saving the selection before killing (was: Selection not to be copied into kill-ring) Richard Stallman
2007-07-13 19:11 ` Saving the selection before killing Stefan Monnier
2007-07-14 18:00 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-15 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-17 3:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-17 8:21 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 4:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 5:44 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 9:28 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 21:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 9:24 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 9:21 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-19 7:35 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19 17:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-20 6:27 ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2007-07-20 15:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-20 16:50 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-21 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 9:22 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19 4:25 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-19 7:44 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19 21:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-20 6:33 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-21 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 9:28 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-22 1:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 7:55 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-22 18:37 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 20:32 ` Jan Djärv
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