From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Saving the selection before killing Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:21:00 +0200 Message-ID: <469DDB7C.4090007@swipnet.se> References: <5fmk5pF3bo3fbU1@mid.individual.net> <87hco5xtbv.fsf@jurta.org> <868x9f30fo.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184750583 24912 80.91.229.12 (18 Jul 2007 09:23:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 18 11:22:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IB5kI-0002Fd-9e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:22:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IB5kG-0008B0-K5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:22:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IB5jY-000879-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:22:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IB5jX-00086c-5a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:22:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IB5jW-00086H-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: from av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.181]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IB5jV-00072L-0r; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:22:09 -0400 Original-Received: by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id AEB2737F52; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:21:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895DD37F47; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:21:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from husetbladh.homeip.net (81-235-205-78-no59.tbcn.telia.com [81.235.205.78]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08FB37E46; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:22:05 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Macintosh/20070604) In-Reply-To: <868x9f30fo.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75047 Archived-At: David Kastrup skrev: > I don't know the details, though, but it probably was the somewhat > different case of every Emacs kill command copying stuff to the > clipboard or so (or some clipboard application milking a selection > whenever one was available). Search for klipper in etc/PROBLEMS. Now this proposal will make Emacs behave like a buggy klipper. Requesting the selection "just for the fun of it" is not something Emacs should do. If the selection in large, Emacs will be slow and unresponsive. The selection may be data Emacs can't handle anyway, such as audio data. If someone makes a big selection in OpenOffice for example, Emacs will get the text version of the selection, which in itself is not useful, all formatting is lost. I'd be annoyes to see that in my kill ring. Please just request selection when the user asks for it. Jan D.