RE: generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window

["Davis Herring" <herring@lanl.gov>]

> How so? Perhaps it depends on the wheeled mouse, but I've never had any
> difficulty using the wheel as `mouse-2'. No doubt you have the same
> problem yanking with the mouse? Or perhaps you don't yank with the mouse
> either?

The wheel is smaller than the (other) buttons, and takes some care to get
just a mouse-2 and not a wheel-scroll then mouse-2 (which would paste
somewhere else!).  I don't yank much with the mouse (I can after all have
C-y ready with one hand while the other just uses mouse-1), but I can; I'm
not saying that wheels are impossible to use as buttons, just harder. 
(They might very well be unusable for someone who had impaired fine motor
control.)

> Fair enough. Consider people who do use a mouse to set point, particularly
> those who have a click-to-focus window manager and who use multiple
> frames.

It's not all that different: I use click-to-focus (largely because I
sometimes like to shove the mouse out of the way), and at the moment I
have a whole two Emacs frames open on each of two machines.  And, as I
said, I do sometimes use the mouse to set point; it's just that that
rarity combined with the rarity of wanting to set point in, say, *Help* in
the first place that makes the whole thing a non-issue for me.

> Perhaps using `mouse-1' to follow links is less annoying for folks who
> don't use the mouse to set point ;-). I am curious, though, why you use a
> mouse to follow links but not to set point.

Because I typically want to edit (with the keyboard) after I set point,
and not after I click a link (which corresponds to "browing" Help or Info
or code, rather than editing same).  Links are often in other windows
and/or are one of many similar choices, and I find them to be best
selected with a pointer.

> Wrt wanting to set point in a link - I don't think that is so much the
> question as wanting to set point (or just establish focus) and
> accidentally landing on a link.

My links are underlined, and my text in general is not, so I don't find
myself unsure what will happen if I click; I also automatically click in
the blank space of a window to select it (to avoid activating anything in
it), although this sometimes means that I need to go back to where I was!

> The place where I'm bitten most often (when I use emacs -Q) is clicking a
> file name in Dired to then do something with that file. Drives me nuts
> that it opens the file. (But I'm sure that, like Stefan, with time and
> patience I could get in the habit of avoiding this annoyance much of the
> time.)

I always use C-s ... RET RET in that case.  But at this point we're just
comparing usage patterns of two Emacs users, so if we are to continue we
might as well take a real survey on the subject.

Davis

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