From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karoly Lorentey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:05:33 +0200 Message-ID: <464C612D.1080405@lorentey.hu> References: <851whkrioc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85hcqg4qxs.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d5144p78.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705131822.l4DIMtXt019128@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85abw8o51q.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <464835DE.3020007@lorentey.hu> <86y7jrr8rx.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86lkfrr3s6.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86d513r2i1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <861whjr097.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <200705141648.l4EGmmvW007675@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85bqgngvos.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705141819.l4EIJLPr009832@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85ps53fcm0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705142004.l4EK4DHg012188@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85lkfrf91x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705142102.l4EL2pHK013655@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <4649D75C.2090905@lorentey.hu> <464A6144.10905@lorentey.hu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0764379840==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179410760 23729 80.91.229.12 (17 May 2007 14:06:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@suse.de, dann@ics.uci.edu, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 17 16:05:57 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hogc5-0006On-5B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:05:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HogkB-0004Je-7C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:14:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hogk6-0004JC-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hogk4-0004Io-1X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:14:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hogk3-0004Il-UB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from ninsei.hu ([212.92.23.158]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hogbv-00022C-VB; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:05:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.36.9] (ns.netvisor.hu [195.228.79.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by chatsubo.ninsei.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527E678F2; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:05:40 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71244 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0764379840== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig39B76B37CA1D2A6251B6217F" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig39B76B37CA1D2A6251B6217F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Stallman wrote: > The client-local environment list is shared between frames that wer= e created in > the same Emacsclient session. The environment list is stored in a = single > frame's environment parameter; the other frames' environment is set= to this > frame. >=20 > That seems to privilege the first frame of a given client in a way > that seems arbitrary. And what happens if that frame gets deleted? > Do you pick another one to be the canonical representative of that > client? It seems a bit kludgy. Yes, delete-frame has special code to deal with this. I agree it's a kludge. > That doesn't necessarily mean I object. This could be the best > method. However, I would not describe this as a "client-local" > variable. The variable bindings are still frame-local, even though > the environment is per-client. I must clarify that there are no frame-local Emacs lisp bindings for the environment, just frame parameters. But otherwise you're right. A cleaner solution would be to make server.el's client parameters (the variable `server-clients') available to callproc.c, and use them directly= =2E People don't like the concept of client-local environments in general, so I think it would be best to choose some other way to handle environments instead. --=20 K=E1roly --------------enig39B76B37CA1D2A6251B6217F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGTGEx6eoyqA+yej8RAl7OAJ9mxdl8T9AmCshhlQZslsoRMtSJJgCgqh9k rO0etiBArw7OBurUqSX/3C8= =YJzw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig39B76B37CA1D2A6251B6217F-- --===============0764379840== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel --===============0764379840==--