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From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:48:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4649E466.5000107@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86k5vazg85.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>

David Kastrup wrote:
> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
>>
>>> emacsclient -t started fine for me and it is fully functional, colors
>>> appear as expected.
>> It looked to me like you were very close to start working on the
>> problem David noticed.
> 
> What makes you think so?

I do not at all know that code or the difficulties you tried to point 
out, but it looked to me like you were trying to get a grasp on the 
problem to solve it. Now I see Karoly has done what I beleive you wanted.


>> Now you have got into a difficult situation. It would at least
>> impress me if you two were able to revert that situation.
> 
> I reverted it.  But I don't find it impressive to leave obvious bugs
> in the code in order to hide other bugs.

I hope that both you and Dan can feel ok again and perhaps try to 
understand why you misunderstood each other.

With that I do not want to blame anyone of you. When things get both 
complicated and stressing misunderstanding is a very likely outcome. One 
of the reasons is that communication is on different levels 
simultaneously, both the logical and emotional level.

The challenge is perhaps to see what is happening to oneself and then on 
what level to correct the communication. And maybe also that one may 
switch level when one gets stressed. Some people becomes more logical 
when stressed, other becomes more emotional. And for all of us I believe 
it is a bit harder to switch level when one is stressed.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-15 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 251+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-04 21:17 Reordering etc/NEWS Richard Stallman
2007-05-05 22:42 ` Glenn Morris
2007-05-05 22:49   ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-06 17:57   ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-06 18:18     ` Glenn Morris
2007-05-06 20:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-07 16:50       ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-07 17:07         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-08  6:27           ` Jan Djärv
2007-05-07 17:36         ` Glenn Morris
2007-05-07 18:05           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-07 17:53         ` spect. [Was: Reordering etc/NEWS] Alan Mackenzie
2007-05-07 18:16           ` Mathias Dahl
2007-05-07 21:51         ` Reordering etc/NEWS Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-07 22:04           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-08 18:09           ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-08 21:09             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-09  8:57             ` Kim F. Storm
2007-05-09  9:23               ` David Kastrup
2007-05-09 17:54               ` JD Smith
2007-05-09 19:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-09 19:59                   ` JD Smith
2007-05-09 20:29                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-09 20:54                   ` Nick Roberts
2007-05-10 13:05                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-09 21:56               ` Karl Fogel
2007-05-09 22:15                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-09 22:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2007-05-09 22:32                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-09 22:59                       ` Karl Fogel
2007-05-10  7:24                       ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-10  7:49                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10  8:04                           ` joakim
2007-05-10  9:19                             ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-10  9:32                               ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10  9:42                               ` joakim
2007-05-10  9:52                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 10:10                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 23:27                                     ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-12  7:53                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-12 12:09                                         ` Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS) Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-12 13:34                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-12 17:21                                             ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-12 18:03                                               ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 11:08                                                 ` Károly Lőrentey
2007-05-13 12:50                                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 16:41                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 17:04                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-05-13 17:18                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 18:11                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2007-05-13 18:17                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 18:22                                                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-13 20:13                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 20:41                                                               ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 21:11                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-22  0:39                                                                   ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-05-13 21:18                                                                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14  6:33                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 21:05                                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14 10:11                                                               ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-14 10:37                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 11:35                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2007-05-14 12:24                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 12:45                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-05-14 12:52                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 13:36                                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2007-05-14 13:41                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 13:42                                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2007-05-14 16:48                                                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14 17:29                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 18:19                                                                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14 19:07                                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 20:04                                                                                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14 20:24                                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 21:02                                                                                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14 21:20                                                                                             ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-14 21:49                                                                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14 22:00                                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-15 19:38                                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-14 21:27                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 22:13                                                                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14 22:27                                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 22:38                                                                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-05-14 22:44                                                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 23:03                                                                                                       ` Multi-tty design Nick Roberts
2007-05-14 23:29                                                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-15  7:44                                                                                                       ` Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-15  8:24                                                                                                         ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-16  1:51                                                                                                       ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-14 22:59                                                                                                     ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-14 23:22                                                                                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-05-14 22:42                                                                                                   ` joakim
2007-05-14 22:55                                                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 22:50                                                                                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-14 23:05                                                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-15  7:41                                                                                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-15 16:48                                                                                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) [this message]
2007-05-14 22:35                                                                                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-05-15 15:53                                                                                             ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-16  1:41                                                                                               ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-16 15:41                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-17 13:12                                                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-17 15:31                                                                                                     ` Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-17 17:00                                                                                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-17 20:02                                                                                                         ` Ken Raeburn
2007-05-17 21:17                                                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18  3:36                                                                                                           ` Károly Lőrentey
2007-05-17 22:51                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-18  2:58                                                                                                         ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-18  7:19                                                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18 11:04                                                                                                             ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-18 11:48                                                                                                               ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18 11:58                                                                                                                 ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-18  2:52                                                                                                       ` Miles Bader
2007-05-17 22:46                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-17 14:35                                                                                                   ` Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-17  9:59                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-17 14:05                                                                                                   ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-17 16:46                                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-17 23:11                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-18  7:36                                                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18 14:24                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-18 14:49                                                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18 16:27                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-20  9:04                                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 13:15                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 13:35                                                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-22  1:54                                                                                                                   ` Miles Bader
2007-05-22  6:37                                                                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-22 15:49                                                                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-22 21:26                                                                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-23 18:55                                                                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-23 19:24                                                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-24 10:55                                                                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-24 11:04                                                                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18 15:18                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-18  2:47                                                                                                   ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-18  8:14                                                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18 11:55                                                                                                       ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-18 12:24                                                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18 17:40                                                                                                           ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-18 18:18                                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-18 23:09                                                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-20 18:13                                                                                                             ` Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-14 21:05                                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-12 21:52                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-12 16:48                                       ` Reordering etc/NEWS Richard Stallman
2007-05-10 10:24                                   ` joakim
2007-05-10 10:24                                 ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-11 22:58                               ` Multi-tty branch status (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS) Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-12  4:20                                 ` Glenn Morris
2007-05-12  6:48                                   ` Kalle Olavi Niemitalo
2007-05-12  7:58                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-12 16:48                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-12 10:30                                   ` Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-12 11:11                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-12 21:52                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-12 16:48                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-12 17:25                                   ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-10 10:28                         ` Reordering etc/NEWS YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2007-05-09 22:58                     ` Nick Roberts
2007-05-10  6:21                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10  1:23                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-10  1:43                       ` Karl Fogel
2007-05-11  7:42                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-11  8:03                     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-05-11  8:34                       ` Nick Roberts
2007-05-11  8:44                       ` Merging multitty (was: Reordering etc/NEWS) David Kastrup
2007-05-11  9:20                         ` Merging multitty Jason Rumney
2007-05-11 10:00                           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 10:25                             ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-11 11:01                               ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 21:05                               ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-12 16:48                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-12 17:58                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 10:52                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-05-12 19:32                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-12 19:42                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-12 20:19                                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-12 20:27                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-12 20:30                                     ` Samium Gromoff
2007-05-11 21:10                               ` Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-11 12:00                             ` Kenichi Handa
2007-05-11 13:14                               ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 13:33                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-11 13:51                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 13:57                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 14:09                                       ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-11 14:17                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-11 14:34                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-05-11 21:34                                   ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-12  7:43                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-11 13:34                               ` merging Unicode branch and availability of Windows binaries Drew Adams
2007-05-14 14:16                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-05-14 14:30                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 15:05                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-05-14 17:32                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 21:56                           ` Merging multitty Richard Stallman
2007-05-11  9:45                         ` Miles Bader
2007-05-11 10:02                           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 21:56                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-13  1:33                             ` Miles Bader
2007-05-13  3:11                               ` Nick Roberts
2007-05-13  3:27                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-05-13  4:00                                   ` Nick Roberts
2007-05-13  4:21                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-05-13 12:43                                       ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-14  8:08                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-14 10:19                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-05-14 11:02                                     ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-14 14:46                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2007-05-15  9:46                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-15 20:49                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                         ` <4649F799.3050108@lorentey.hu>
2007-05-16  1:39                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-10 13:06               ` Reordering etc/NEWS Richard Stallman
2007-05-10 14:14                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-10 14:25                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 14:49                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-10 17:15                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 17:21                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-10 15:53                 ` Karl Fogel
2007-05-10 17:39                   ` Ken Manheimer
2007-05-10 17:44                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-11  8:50                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-11 11:23                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-11 15:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-11 16:09                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-11 17:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-11 17:49                     ` Karl Fogel
2007-05-11 18:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-11 18:37                         ` Karl Fogel
2007-05-12  7:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-12  7:59                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-12 13:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-12 16:47                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-11 18:48                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-11 21:46                     ` Karl Fogel
2007-05-10 17:13                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-11 18:48                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-07 16:50       ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-07 21:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-07 21:56           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-07 10:05     ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-05-07 10:12       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-07 13:39         ` Jay Belanger
2007-05-07 13:45           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-07 13:54             ` Thomas Hühn
2007-05-07 14:03               ` David Kastrup
2007-05-07 14:57       ` Chong Yidong
2007-05-07 23:28         ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-07 23:28       ` Richard Stallman

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