From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; describe-char gives wrong information Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:50:01 +0100 Message-ID: <46369F5A-C4B1-459B-9583-C0F35F8D0A35@Freenet.DE> References: <3167E3EC-A084-4229-9531-AC3E5BDF69BB@Freenet.DE> <60200667-2BCD-4D24-BC0F-700361E632A2@Freenet.DE> <37765195-4505-4662-AE93-5B78556F67F6@Freenet.DE> <7A846B7D-1005-463E-B704-81895DD7FBDC@Freenet.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200390630 9979 80.91.229.12 (15 Jan 2008 09:50:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 15 10:50:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JEiRX-0002Zp-NU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:50:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JEiR9-0005mI-AB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:50:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JEiR1-0005j6-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:50:19 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JEiQz-0005fY-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:50:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JEiQz-0005f1-KX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:50:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEiQy-0003ml-Qe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:50:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JEiQy-0000Zz-I5 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:50:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEiQv-0003l3-6O for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:50:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEiQr-0003iX-NK for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:50:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.4.92.12] (helo=2.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JEiQo-0006IA-5n; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:50:06 +0100 Original-Received: from fcfa9.f.ppp-pool.de ([195.4.207.169]:50881 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 2.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1JEiQn-00068u-UD; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:50:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86932 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20657 Archived-At: Am 15.01.2008 um 09:18 schrieb Kenichi Handa: > Did that slowness happen only after my recent change? Yes. Could it was introduced before, but for me it became existing =20 when I updated after receiving your eMail yesterday. > And, how did you disable font-backend via an X resource"? Probably badly expressed. I have two lines in ~/.Xdefaults: Emacs.FontBackend: x !Emacs.FontBackend: xft When the xft option is on, GNU Emacs crashes during start-up. > As far as I remember, you can't do it. Via X resouce, you can only > specify which font backend to use. If you configure Emacs > with --enable-font-backend, the only way to suppress it is > by the command line argument "--disable-font-backend". When using this option on the command line, GNU Emacs works much =20 faster, when I've configure it before with --enable-font-backend. It =20 scrolls up or down at normal speed. And there is one more difference: =20= I can see a file name like RGB a=CC=88o=CC=88u=CC=88=C3=A6=C3=86U=CC=88O=CC=88A=CC=88 = Kopie.txt as RGB a=CC=88o=CC=88u=CC=88=C3=A6=C3=86U=CC=88O=CC=88A=CC=88 = Kopie.txt while it otherwise is displayed as RGB aou=C3=A6=C3=86UOA Kopie.txt > >> Almost no open box symbol appears, which is simply great, but I am >> not completely sure whether the contents of the braces is always >> right (I am using utf8.txt from the Kermit distribution). > > What is "the contents of the braces"? The character as described outside. For example: [=C8=AA] 022A LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS AND MACRON [=C8=AB] 022B LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS AND MACRON [=C8=AC] 022C LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH TILDE AND MACRON [=C8=AD] 022D LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH TILDE AND MACRON [=C8=AE] 022E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH DOT ABOVE [=C8=AF] 022F LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DOT ABOVE [=C8=B0] 0230 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH DOT ABOVE AND MACRON [=C8=B1] 0231 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DOT ABOVE AND MACRON It's this file: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/charsets/utf8.txt -- Greetings Pete Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never =20= stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and =20 neither do we. =E2=80=93 Georges W. Bush