From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: kbd vs read-key-sequence Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:05:14 +0100 Message-ID: <461218CA.6040006@gnu.org> References: <4610139D.3060909@gnu.org> <46112BFB.7080109@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1175591174 10792 80.91.229.12 (3 Apr 2007 09:06:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 09:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, handa@m17n.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 03 11:06:08 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HYexi-0007v5-MO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:05:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYf0q-0002an-8u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:09:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYf0k-0002Yy-O8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:09:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYf0i-0002Ui-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYf0i-0002UV-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:09:04 -0400 Original-Received: from outmail1.freedom2surf.net ([194.106.33.237]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HYexX-0001ib-Ne; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:05:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net [83.67.23.108]) by outmail1.freedom2surf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6031450475; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 10:05:25 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:68976 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: > Lots of people in poor countries run versions of Windows prior to XP. > XP has activation features that cause trouble for them. > I got the Emacs version numbers wrong. I wasn't suggesting to drop support for them immediately, but it is increasingly difficult to continue to support them when no developers are using them, and we probably need to make some major changes for Emacs 23 which are easier and produce better results if we use Unicode APIs. > Whether this means they run Windows 98 or Windows ME, I don't know. > I don't remember all the versions of Windows; was there one in between > ME and XP? > There were two strands of Windows, 95/98/ME which is not Unicode based and supports unicode only for a few limited uses, and Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista, which is Unicode based. From Windows XP, the first strand was dropped and replaced with a crippled version of the second strand. > We do not want to encourage them to upgrade. Surely we do want to encourage them to upgrade, to a Free OS?