From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: raise frame no go Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:18:44 +0100 Message-ID: <45A341D4.8010608@swipnet.se> References: <459CE81B.2090201@swipnet.se> <459F96D3.9050007@swipnet.se> <45A1F688.5070603@swipnet.se> <45A28212.6030207@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1168327179 16924 80.91.229.12 (9 Jan 2007 07:19:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , sdl.web@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 09 08:19:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H4BGi-0007TZ-Bx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:19:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H4BGh-00020T-JH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:19:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H4BGJ-0001yy-5o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:19:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H4BGD-0001w1-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:19:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H4BGD-0001vp-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:19:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.179] (helo=av9-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H4BG9-0003x3-Py; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:19:02 -0500 Original-Received: by av9-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E573938324; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:19:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av9-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AC538050; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:19:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from husetbladh.homeip.net (81-235-205-78-no59.tbcn.telia.com [81.235.205.78]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFACB37E47; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:18:59 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070102) Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:65043 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier skrev: >>>>> OTOH, it seems pretty clear to me now that we should un-obsolete >>>>> focus-frame and implement it with _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW. >>>> Agreed, but maybe we should rename focus-frame then, as _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW >>>> does more than just focus (i.e. raises also)? >>> Are you sure it necessarily does a raise also? Isn't that up to the >>> window-manager? > >> The specification doesn't say, so you are right, it is up to the WM. >> But all WM:s I've seen (KDE, Metacity and Xfwm4) also raises the window to >> the top. > > Even when using "focus follows mouse"? That is what I use. However, I can get focused, unraised frames with metacity, so focus-frame is more logical. Jan D.