From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: raise frame no go Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:32:19 +0100 Message-ID: <459F96D3.9050007@swipnet.se> References: <459CE81B.2090201@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1168086769 32236 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2007 12:32:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sdl.web@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 06 13:32:47 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H3Aj7-0007Qq-Rh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:32:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H3Aj7-0005Zg-B7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:32:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H3Aiw-0005Z2-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:32:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H3Aiu-0005Yc-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:32:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H3Ait-0005YT-Sx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:32:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.183] (helo=av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H3Air-0007Yu-ID; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:32:29 -0500 Original-Received: by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E162938112; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:32:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C3737F37; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:32:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from husetbladh.homeip.net (81-235-205-78-no59.tbcn.telia.com [81.235.205.78]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9236237E44; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:32:23 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64876 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii skrev: >> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:42:19 +0100 >> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= >> Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org >> >> Metacity (the default Gnome window manager) is a complete mess when it comes >> to raise frame. Some versions works, some don't. Some require the code >> below, some don't. In some configurations (i.e. focus on click vs. focus on >> mouse) raise frame works, in some raise frame don't work. >> >> We must give up on creating workarounds for Metacity, and just tell people >> that metacity is buggy. Ufortunately they have to figure out a workaround for >> themselves and their specific verion/configuration of metacity. > > How about writing an entry for etc/PROBLEMS about this? In the bug created by Leo, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392889, the recommendation from the Gnome people seems to be that we use _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW but with a proper timestamp (this was wrong in Emacs). If some version of Metacity hangs, it is no fault of Emacs and should be handeled as a Metacity bug. On the other hand, it is late in the game (pretest-wise) and maybe a note in etc/PROBLEMS is good enough for the release. Comments? Jan D.