From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: National Language Support Functions Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:27:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4595C084.2030700@gmail.com> References: <458AB581.7090303@student.lu.se> <45957F23.8040409@gmail.com> <45958D3B.4060207@gmail.com> <45959540.407@gmail.com> <4595AF66.2030602@gmail.com> <4595B600.3000008@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167442068 17793 80.91.229.12 (30 Dec 2006 01:27:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 30 02:27:46 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H0T0k-0005f9-C1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:27:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0T0j-0006pK-Rd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H0T0Z-0006p6-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H0T0Y-0006oC-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0T0X-0006o7-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.76.149.213] (helo=ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1H0T0X-0003bK-At for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:33 -0500 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-24.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.24]:62701 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H0T0V-0005sv-8K; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:27:32 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0665-0, 2006-12-29), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1H0T0V-0005sv-8K. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1H0T0V-0005sv-8K bd366c72d266cf984dd86345571e87bf X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64473 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On 12/30/06, Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > >> Of course I did not say that. What made you think that? > > When asked about your distribution, you used as argument that more > people downloaded your patched Emacs than the unpatched one. What's > the purpose of that comment? To say that people seem to find the patches useful. But I agree with your argument that this is not an evidence at all. > > I certainly log off, and I've never lost data that way. Perhaps I'm > used to exiting Emacs (and other programs) before logging off. That's > not to say you're not pointing out a real problem (in fact, I've never > seen your patch, but a priori it seems like a good idea). I never close any program before shutting down. I hope they all behave according to the guidelines. > > I fail to see the flood of complaints about Emacs' use of Alt, too. You did not notice my complaints? ;-) Perhaps people do not complain, perhaps they just move on. > Important. Not a specific goal, AFAICS. I don't think use of alt is > the only problem in that regard. And remapping of keys for > accessibility reasons can (and perhaps should) be done outside Emacs, > with other tools. Part of the accessibility guidelines is to not put a burdon on those that needs the help they should give. That means that every program should follow them.