From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chetan Pandya Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: rmail-toggle-header problem Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:21:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <455812.70516.qm@web83203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: Reply-To: pandyacus@sbcglobal.net NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235168522 26496 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2009 22:22:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris , rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 20 23:23:18 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ladm7-0002xu-0b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:23:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37299 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ladkm-0000Rc-Lw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:21:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ladkg-0000Pt-HD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:21:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ladkd-0000OT-SE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:21:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48018 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ladkd-0000OQ-OK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:21:43 -0500 Original-Received: from web83203.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([216.252.101.47]:26397) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ladkd-0005Is-94 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:21:43 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 70720 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Feb 2009 22:21:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ivGzET8ne5SLyxL6jvavmEnTawsJeh3rsxcYZ+Ded2CDEIp7ymDXe7TaI6Epy/V1+U2tgbcqZiCskqzK4xqa1lMcHzaHQ+OWctniB/zTd+XEnJWMV2/WmbRkBNhyoXAEywKj4RDnOrDcc8vWTG8oC4q7wdqQIz3MTUPdZ51xFco=; X-YMail-OSG: z0Xn.S8VM1nn7XLoVh9uPHQIKNgPrKMx85vm_CUP5XuInWgHvKsDBuQob99duSo_ug-- Original-Received: from [76.200.183.251] by web83203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:21:42 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109264 Archived-At: > I'm not sure that yanking from the full headers makes a lot of sense, > though. Eg it includes the X-RMAIL headers in the yank. Would you ever > want to include the full headers (all the Received: etc) in a reply? > > I doubt it, but this combination ought to do what is natural in the > circumstances, which is to yank the headers that are visible. > To do otherwise would require artificially filtering them in second place. > > if the user asks for it, we may as well do what he asked for. Looking at all of the responses so far, I don't see any original headers as part of the reply. I wonder if it is because noone wants them or because they are not provided by the MUA. Assuming it is the former, would it not make more sense to make that as the default? It is always possible to copy whatever headers that are deemed necessary, but I suspect that isn't a very common operation. If all headers are provided as default, it just increases the effort needed to trim it down and I am sure not everybody is interested in the full headers of the original message.