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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master a4144af 1/2: Prefer ~/.config/emacs to ~/.emacs.d if neither exists
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 23:25:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44c7794c-29a7-65be-0838-f84807eba9bc@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ftlial33.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Why should we force this convention on platforms other than GNU/Linux?

We're not forcing the new convention on any platform, as people who prefer the 
old convention can still use it and Emacs will continue to respect that 
convention on all platforms. That is, users who prefer the old convention won't 
need to do anything special to their home directories that use the old 
convention; they can just run Emacs as before and it will work as before.

The issue came up when I was testing a fix for the bug Glenn reported 
<https://bugs.gnu.org/583#56>. There are four cases when Emacs starts up:

(1) only ~/.config/emacs (the new-convention directory) is present, where Emacs 
obviously should use that;

(2) only ~/.emacs.d (the old-convention directory) is present, where Emacs 
obviously should use that;

(3) both directories are present, where I recall that we discussed that Emacs 
should use the new-convention directory; and

(4) neither directory is present, which we did not discuss explicitly but I 
reasoned by analogy with (3) that Emacs should also prefer the new convention 
when either the old or the new will do.


It would be quite odd if case (4) were done the opposite way, because then Emacs 
would prefer the new convention for case (3) and the old convention for case 
(4), and this mixup would likely cause more confusion than it would cure.

Whatever we decide about case (4) should be independent of platform, since some 
users move config files between GNUish and non-GNUish platforms or share these 
files via network protocols or run Emacs on both GNUish and non-GNUish 
platforms, and it would cause unnecessary trouble for users if Emacs behaved 
differently on GNU/Linux versus other platforms.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-01  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-30 12:34 [Emacs-diffs] master a4144af 1/2: Prefer ~/.config/emacs to ~/.emacs.d if neither exists Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-30 14:20 ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-08-30 14:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-01  6:25 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2019-09-01 13:05   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-01 13:44     ` Teemu Likonen
2019-09-01 13:56     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-02 19:03       ` Paul Eggert
     [not found] <20190830072451.9819.83340@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20190830072452.ACB48210EC@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-08-30 14:38   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-30 15:20     ` Kaushal Modi

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