From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TUTORIAL and scroll bar Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:28:15 +0200 Message-ID: <44DAD1FF.4030603@swipnet.se> References: <878xly60md.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1155191340 30831 80.91.229.2 (10 Aug 2006 06:29:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 10 08:28:57 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB42J-0000r8-Ui for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:28:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB42J-0003rp-BO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:28:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GB425-0003re-GI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:28:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GB423-0003rO-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:28:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB423-0003rL-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:28:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.9.183] (helo=av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GB46s-00081w-OT; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:33:38 -0400 Original-Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E672E37E6A; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:28:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73BA37E61; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:28:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from coolsville.localdomain (81-235-205-204-no59.tbcn.telia.com [81.235.205.204]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F2837E46; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:28:36 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58250 Archived-At: Richard Stallman skrev: > > I guess this is done to be consistent with the defaults of the > > respective window-system. > > If that's the rationale, I suggest moving scroll bars to the right on > GTK as well. > > The main reason for putting scroll bars on the left is that most of the text > is on the left. In ordinary X11 toolkit scroll bars, there are mouse > clicks whose operation is based on the line you click on, so it is useful > to see the scroll bar close to the text on the line. > > However, the scroll bar commands on Windows and the Mac don't work > that way, and it is not particularly useful for those scroll bars to > be on the left. So they may as well go on the right, where people > usually expect them. > > I am not sure what the scroll bar commands in the GTK version do. > If they work like those of Windows, then those scroll bars may as > well be on the right. I am not sure which commands you mean. Dou you mean that middle click on the bar jumps the slider there? GTK has that. Jan D.