From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Roehler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tip of the day? Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:24:20 +0200 Message-ID: <44B3FAE4.8060504@easy-emacs.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1152645738 23850 80.91.229.2 (11 Jul 2006 19:22:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 11 21:22:15 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0No7-0000e8-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:22:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0No6-0002qh-P3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:22:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G0Nnu-0002pJ-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G0Nns-0002nC-GE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:21:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0Nns-0002mu-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:21:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.188] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G0NpF-0005MQ-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.190.148.165] (helo=[192.168.178.23]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1G0Nnn2t9I-00054e; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:21:48 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) Original-To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:62d13292e0fce6aaed56aaadcb96352d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:56934 Archived-At: Drew Adams schrieb: > A thread on help-emacs-windows gave me this idea. I don't know if it's > already been implemented in some way in the past. (Perhaps I need a tip of > the day, to let me know that tip-of-the-day exists!) > > Why not exploit the yow/cookie mechanism or something similar to provide a > tip-of-the-day that Emacs users can turn on? Or, just bring up the Emacs > manual at some node as a tip of the day. > > In the latter case, the node could be chosen from a selected list of > introductory nodes, perhaps organized by category (e.g. novice vs advanced, > or by subject area), so that some planning went into deciding what to > present, or it could just be chosen at random. Users might even configure > whether they want a random high-level node or to follow the plan. > > Years ago, I used yow or cookie (I don't remember) to pop up a random haiku > from a huge file of haikus. That's what made me think this might be one way > to provide a tip of the day. But it would be much easier (no file to > create), and probably better for the user (because s?he can explore from > there), to pop up a manual node. > > Some applications use such a tip-of-the-day feature, turning it on by > default, so that new users see a tip at each application startup. Usually, > when the tip pops up, it has a check box that you can uncheck to turn it off > so you never see it again. > > Depending on what you are trying to do, what the application is, and how > good the tips are, this feature can be annoying or surprisingly useful. > Because the Emacs manual is so good and so rich, I think this would be > useful for Emacs. But we would need to provide an easy way to turn it off, > because it will surely annoy some of the people some of the time. > > IMO with haikus or small sentences as from fortune it's another thing as with the Manual. The matter Emacs covers is so vaste, that I can't imagine a usefull approach beside studying it along some line. Others may take it different. Thanks to be initiative anyway. __ Andreas Roehler