unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, cyd@mit.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tooltips and menus
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:57:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4472CE76.3090401@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85mzd9ywh4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>



David Kastrup skrev:
> Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
> 
>> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>>> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
>>>>
>>>> I'd vote to keep them.
>>> Same here.
>> Since they are very uncommon in other applications, I vote for
>> turning them of by default, with an option to turn them on.
> 
> The question is whether they are considered helpful in general, not
> whether other applications have them.  Emacs has a lot of things that
> other applications don't.  My vote to keep them was because I
> considered them useful.  Turning them off by default will, like most
> other user convenience settings, have the effect that nobody ever
> notices their availability.  In particular those users who would
> profit from them.

I was kind of assuming that users don't find them useful and as a result other 
applications don't have them.  But I may assume too much here.

FWIW, I do find them annoying sometimes.  They tend to obscure other menu 
entries.  For the most part, they don't say any more than the menu entry 
itself.  For example Options => Show/Hide => Toolbar is pretty obvious.  The 
tool tip is "Turn tool-bar on/off" which adds nothing IMHO.

	Jan D.


	Jan D.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-23  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-21 17:08 Tooltips and menus Richard Stallman
2006-05-21 19:34 ` Leon
2006-05-21 20:43   ` Bill Wohler
2006-05-21 21:51   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-05-21 22:12     ` Leon
2006-05-21 22:08   ` Andreas Schwab
2006-05-21 20:16 ` Chong Yidong
2006-05-22 15:11   ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22 15:17     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 18:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-23  6:29         ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-23  8:30           ` David Kastrup
2006-05-23  8:57             ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2006-05-23 13:59               ` Drew Adams
2006-05-24  2:18                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-24  3:27                   ` Drew Adams
2006-05-24 19:20                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23  0:42       ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23  8:24         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-23  0:53     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-05-23  1:26     ` Chong Yidong
2006-05-23  3:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-23  7:40       ` Jason Rumney
2006-05-23  8:27         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-24  2:17       ` Richard Stallman

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4472CE76.3090401@swipnet.se \
    --to=jan.h.d@swipnet.se \
    --cc=cyd@mit.edu \
    --cc=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).