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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide	'CUA-mode)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:21:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <447190AF.6020109@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <447188A6.7000608@swipnet.se>

Jan Djärv wrote:
>
>
> Lennart Borgman skrev:
>> Jan Djärv wrote:
>>>> As far as I know F10 also always works on w32 for activating the 
>>>> menus. However the most usual way on w32 is to use the ALT key. Is 
>>>> that the usual way in Gnome/Gtk+ too?
>>>
>>> Most usual depends on what the user do, but keyboard shortcuts for 
>>> menus, using ALT + some key, are available if the menus are set up 
>>> like that by the program.  Emacs does not.
>>
>> What is missing in Emacs here? I know from what you told me before 
>> that Emacs does not setup accelerator keys for the menus (which at 
>> least on w32 are underlined characters). However on w32 this is not 
>> needed to activate the menus with ALT. It suffices to just press ALT. 
>> (Usually once but sometimes in some apps twice, which I believe is 
>> due to somewhat bad handling of accessibility in those programs.)
>
> Oh, you men just pressing ALT and no additional key?  That is not used 
> in Gnome/Gtk+.  Or any other toolkit or OS I know of either.  Must be 
> w32-specific.
Yes, I mean just pressing ALT and then using the arrow keys to navigate 
in the menus.

Thanks, then I understand a little bit better why my cries for reserving 
the ALT key for the menus on w32 have fallen unheard here. However on 
w32 that is very important. Too bad those things are not cross-OS. Does 
anyone knows if there is something in the accessibility guidelines that 
says something about this?

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-22 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-20 13:15 Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 13:25 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 16:44   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 18:32     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 19:18       ` Werner LEMBERG
2006-05-20 20:07         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21  7:49           ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-21  9:54             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 17:43               ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-21 21:22                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 22:51                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22  5:50                     ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22  8:53                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22  9:47                         ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22 10:21                           ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2006-05-22 10:49                             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 11:26                             ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-22 12:50                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:02                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:32                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:34                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:44                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:51                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:58                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 14:57                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 22:04                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23  8:19                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 12:06                             ` martin rudalics
2006-05-22 12:47                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:01                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:30                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:32                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:43                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:47                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:55                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 14:01                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 14:21                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-21 11:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-22  2:38             ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22  3:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22  5:48               ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22 20:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23  6:27                   ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-23  8:22                     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-23 13:33                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23 13:45                         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-23 14:12                         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-23 14:32                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23 22:35                             ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-24  2:18                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23 11:54                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-23 13:02                       ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24  2:18                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-24 11:16                       ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 12:27                         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-24 12:59                           ` David Kastrup
2006-05-24 14:23                             ` Jan D.
2006-05-24 14:32                               ` David Kastrup
2006-05-24 14:48                                 ` Jason Rumney
2006-05-24 14:53                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-24 15:00                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-05-25  0:36                               ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-29  7:30                                 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29  7:49                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-05-29  8:16                                     ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29  8:21                                       ` David Kastrup
2006-05-29  8:48                                         ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29  9:06                                           ` David Kastrup
2006-06-01  7:48                                             ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-31 23:08                                   ` Menus (was: Semi-unhelpful error message etc.) Johan Bockgård
2006-05-31 23:14                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-06-01  5:41                                       ` Menus Jan Djärv
2006-06-01  6:46                                         ` Menus Romain Francoise
2006-06-01  7:31                                           ` Menus David Kastrup
2006-06-01  7:30                                         ` Menus David Kastrup
2006-06-02  3:13                                         ` Menus Richard Stallman
2006-06-02  3:12                                     ` Menus (was: Semi-unhelpful error message etc.) Richard Stallman
2006-05-25  0:36                         ` Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Richard Stallman
2006-05-25 10:52                           ` Jason Rumney
2006-05-25 10:56                             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-25 13:29                               ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-26  2:22                                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-26  2:22                             ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-25 13:28                           ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24  2:18                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-24 11:19                       ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 11:50                         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-24 16:36                           ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 17:14                             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-23  9:58             ` public
2006-05-23 11:03               ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22  6:12     ` Miles Bader
2006-05-22  8:42       ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 20:37         ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23 11:48           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-24  2:18             ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-21  0:56   ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-20 21:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-20 22:57   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 23:18     ` Kim F. Storm

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