From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-h K and C-h F in the Help menu
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:38:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44701909.2050601@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uac9cxcui.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:19:02 +0200
>> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
>> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> I recently got some comments about the help menu in CVS Emacs from a
>> long term Emacs user and fan (+15 y usage). One of the comments were
>> that there are too many things in the help menu.
>>
>
> For some value of ``too many'': we have 17 entries there. Why is this
> bad? Each entry can be useful in specific situations.
>
It is a good question. As I understand it the complaints was from a user
interface view. Such a view is a mixture of logical and psychological
matters. Neither a logical or a psychological argument is then entirely
useful on its own even if they on their own are completely valid.
At first sight one might think that the time to find something in a menu
is proportional to the length of the menu. I think however that the time
required rises much faster, but I have not read any research about this.
As I said before one of the factors is probably the short term memory
span. This means that clear grouping with horizontal lines will probably
help (as soon as the user understands the grouping). In the process of
trying to grasp the grouping it seems to me that there should be a big
advantage in fewer items.
Submenus will reduce the number of items even if there is only two
subitems and I believe that this will be helpful for the reasons I have
tried to outline above.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-21 7:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-20 20:32 C-h K and C-h F in the Help menu Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-20 21:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 21:38 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 21:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 22:10 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 22:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 22:48 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 23:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 23:08 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 23:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 23:20 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 3:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21 9:31 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-05-21 3:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-20 22:44 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-05-20 22:56 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 23:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 23:09 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 23:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 23:22 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 9:57 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-05-21 10:11 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 10:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-05-21 18:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22 2:38 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22 2:56 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-05-22 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22 20:36 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22 8:57 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-21 4:27 ` Juri Linkov
2006-05-21 3:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21 7:38 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2006-05-21 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21 21:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-21 23:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 15:12 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22 16:53 ` Drew Adams
2006-05-22 21:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-23 0:42 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23 3:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22 3:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21 17:08 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-21 17:08 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-21 4:27 ` Juri Linkov
2006-05-21 17:08 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-26 20:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
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