From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: ASCII-only startup message? Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 06:55:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <444c19cb-4687-41c4-8291-481f5b5a42a1@default> References: <567ECD8C.1070408@cs.ucla.edu> <8360zlhy7x.fsf@gnu.org> <567EE043.9020109@cs.ucla.edu> <83y4chgh5q.fsf@gnu.org> <567EED47.1090700@cs.ucla.edu> <83si2pgci8.fsf@gnu.org> <567F22B1.9040702@cs.ucla.edu> <2dc99848-b6d5-4f53-b22c-66e29d15647c@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451228187 10491 80.91.229.3 (27 Dec 2015 14:56:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 14:56:27 +0000 (UTC) To: =?utf-8?B?UGVyIFN0YXJiw6Rjaw==?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 27 15:56:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDCk1-0001nm-Fa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 15:56:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41806 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDCk0-00020d-Pu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 09:56:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDCjv-0001yE-Jv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 09:56:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDCjp-0001RF-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 09:56:07 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:41290) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDCjp-0001RB-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 09:56:01 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tBREtwEp011747 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 27 Dec 2015 14:55:58 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tBREtvAg027488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 27 Dec 2015 14:55:57 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tBREtvC2002636; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 14:55:57 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196972 Archived-At: > Unicode has muddles it further by bad names for these > characters. I think ascii ' should have a name similar to ascii - > (HYPHEN-MINUS) which shows that this is something used as a stand-in > for several different characters. Yes. And not just the names. Unicode too has a single stand-in for multiple (2) characters. A single Unicode character is apparently meant (recommended) to represent both the apostrophe and the right single quotation mark. These are (should be) different animals and they need not always have the same glyphs. But for Unicode not so.