From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: unhelpful menu keybinding notes Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:19:56 +0200 Message-ID: <44434FAC.30707@student.lu.se> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145262028 22020 80.91.229.2 (17 Apr 2006 08:20:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 17 10:20:25 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOy5-00066z-8t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:20:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOy3-0002RL-2w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:20:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOxn-0002Qm-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOxl-0002QI-8g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOxk-0002Q7-T0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVOyK-0005tU-D8; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:20:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.070) id 44311E3A0030069E; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:19:57 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:52950 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Miles Bader >> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:36:25 +0900 >> >> In the GTK version of emacs, the keybinding notes for the "Edit > Cut" >> and "Edit > Copy" menu entries say "" and "" respectively. >> >> Those names don't seem very useful to me, as most keyboards don't have >> such keys; also they don't help teach the real Emacs bindings. >> Shouldn't those just say "C-w" and "M-w" ? >> > > This happens to come up periodically; I remember at least 2 > discussions in the past. and are Sun keyboard's keys, > and IIRC the problem is we don't have any good way to specify, for a > command that has several keybindings, which one gets mentioned in the > menu. I think we currently display the last one bound. > > Also, please note that, at least by default on GUI displays, these > menu items don't invoke the same functions as C-w and M-w (because > x-win.el turns on menu-bar-enable-clipboard). > Would it help if they invoked the same functions? Could we not fix that?