From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Icon update
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:48:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <443216BA.5080206@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87irpqgvlu.fsf@olgas.newt.com>
Bill Wohler wrote:
> "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
>
>> I think the recent changes to the tool bar icons was so that
>> next_node, prev_node and up_node would clearly indicate that we are
>> moving in the node (i.e. document) and not in the history of previous
>> moves (see previous discussion on emacs-devel). I think the ones you
>> suggest are more of the history kind of icons.
>
> Really? It seems that stock_left and stock_right are usually used for
> history, not stock_next and stock_previous.
You may be right, it was just my first impression, not a well reasearched fact
:-).
>
>> There are icons called
>> next-page and previous-page though (attached, no up-page seems to
>> exist). But these seems to be poorly supported by the themes I have
>> (no theme has customized those icons).
>
> Gnus and MH-E use the next-page icon to indicate paging down within
> the current article/mail message, *not* to the next article/mail
> message. I *think* that's the intent of this icon.
>
> In other words, stock_next-page is used to page within the current
> article/message/file/node while stock_next is used to go to the next
> article/message/file/node.
I think the distiction is a bit blurred in info. While you may go to the next
node (for example, Emacs/Basic/Inserting text to Emacs/Basic/Moving Point),
you are still within the same topic/article (Emacs and indeed Emacs/Basic).
>
> You do point out that the arrows are used for history, but in MH-E,
> I'm using them to go to the next and previous message. Whoops.
>
> Now, I would suggest that we take stock_previous and stock_next icons
> from GNOME and use those in info and MH-E. Since the custom next-node
> and prev-node Emacs icons aren't supported by GTK at all, we're no
> worse off and buy consistency between Info, MH-E, and GNOME.
If that OK with those who took part in the previous discussion, it is fine by me.
>
> However, the metaphor between the next and previous icons isn't the
> same as the up and top icons, as shown in the following:
Yes, I think the previous discussion pointed to a lack of icons in the
Gtk/Gnome set, and I think, but am not sure, that a bug report on that was
filed as well.
> I don't think we'd want to do this. I'll ask what the GNOME usability
> folks what they recommend we use for these functions and report back
> here.
Ok.
Jan D.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-04 6:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-26 22:57 Icon update Bill Wohler
2006-03-26 22:59 ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-27 19:55 ` David Kastrup
2006-03-28 6:33 ` Jan D.
2006-03-29 0:42 ` Leon
2006-03-29 4:17 ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-29 10:11 ` Jan D.
2006-03-29 19:03 ` Leon
2006-03-29 20:06 ` Leon
2006-03-29 20:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-29 20:42 ` Leon
2006-03-30 7:05 ` Jan D.
2006-03-30 19:39 ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-31 12:22 ` Jan D.
2006-03-31 17:37 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-01 12:19 ` Jan D.
2006-04-01 16:22 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-01 20:06 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-03 6:28 ` Jan D.
2006-04-03 22:09 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-04 6:48 ` Jan D. [this message]
2006-04-04 19:04 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-04 19:09 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-04-04 19:30 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-05 7:08 ` Jan D.
2006-04-05 7:13 ` Miles Bader
2006-03-30 20:41 ` Leon
2006-03-31 1:52 ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-31 12:29 ` Jan D.
2006-03-29 21:47 ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-29 22:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-30 6:56 ` Jan D.
2006-03-30 20:26 ` Leon
2006-03-30 6:43 ` Jan D.
2006-03-28 19:22 ` Bill Wohler
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