From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:41:18 +0200 Message-ID: <4412c862c2ed4780ad36de7af86c88eb@swipnet.se> References: <7ca1709813602da58a139cee58fb4c63@gmail.com> <3b9c4e2f33d37fed55f640dcafbc8d65@gmail.com> <87is31i8jq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <0ba853825b580f74347416c2c0b4a169@gmail.com> <87vf70ausz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <5b72982df8c370d3a58358de397046c8@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112903624 4168 80.91.229.2 (7 Apr 2005 19:53:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: david.reitter@gmail.com, snogglethorpe@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 21:53:42 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJd3E-0000Op-Py for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:52:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJccb-0004rB-8y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:24:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJcUT-0003l7-3C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:16:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJcUA-0003bn-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:16:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJcU8-0003Z9-4C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.54.107.70] (helo=mxfep01.bredband.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJctV-0000Dl-Gn; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:42:25 -0400 Original-Received: from coolsville.localdomain ([83.226.180.210] [83.226.180.210]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050407194139.YTXR25559.mxfep01.bredband.com@coolsville.localdomain>; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:41:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35708 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35708 > PS: The only problem is that those toolkits have the idiotic idea > to enforce > that the bottom of the thumb cannot go further than the bottom. > And they > enforce it by hiding the events corresponding to "user moves the > mouse > yet-further-down". > > I can talk with the GTK developers about this. And also with the > LessTif developers. Should I do that? We already had this discussion, and Owen Taylor said (27 Mar 2003): > * Allowing dragging the scrollbar thumb past the end of the > trough is something I'm quite hesitant to do: > > - It will look like a bug to the user > - Some themes may not be able to handle such a case nicely (think > of a theme where the stepper arrows are round circles in the > trough instead of being as wide as the trough ... in that > case the thumb can't simply be truncated by the stepper arrow) http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2003-03/msg00609.html Jan D.