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From: John Williams <jrw@pobox.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: patches for etags and shell-command
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:17:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43D2B30A.3050500@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1F0OsE-0000wC-W1@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard M. Stallman wrote:
>     I have two patches today; the first one changes shell-command so that the 
>     default interactive argument is the current buffer's filename.
> 
> Is the idea that you type M-n to bring the current buffer's filename
> into the minibuffer, and then you type the rest of the command around
> it?  Access to that file name would be useful, but at the same time,
> this interface would be rather inconvenient to use.
> 
>     This patch corrects a bug in etags that causes completion to only
>     consider the tags in a single TAGS buffer.  With the match tag
>     completion will consider tags from all the active TAGS buffers.
> 
> That seems like a clean extension.  I will forward it to the etags
> maintainer.
> 

It takes a little getting used to, but it's quite natural to use once 
you get used to M-! M-n meaning "run a shell command on the current file."

Most of the commands you'd use in conjunction with the current file name 
accept the file name as their last argument, so running a command 
usually involves this key sequence:

   M-! M-n <my-command> SPC RET

(If I'd though of it before now I would have added a space at the 
beginning of the default argument since it's probably needed anyway 99% 
of the time.)

Not being able to insert the current filename in the minibuffer seemed 
like a glaring omission when I started using Emacs after years of using 
Vim, so I would really like to see some way of achieving that 
functionality became part of Emacs.

Before I came up with the idea to use M-n, I also considered expanding 
"%" the way Vim does, but I think that's too likely to cause surprises 
to users unfamiliar with the feature.  I also tried adding a special key 
binding to insert the current file name, but I don't think the added 
flexibility is worth the cost of having to remember yet another key 
combination.

--jw

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-21 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-20 16:29 patches for etags and shell-command John Williams
2006-01-21 19:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-21 22:17   ` John Williams [this message]
2006-01-22 17:44     ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-22  0:38   ` Juri Linkov
2006-02-15 18:08 ` Francesco Potorti`
     [not found] <E1F9nTR-0003HU-Ew@fencepost.gnu.org>
2006-02-19 21:48 ` John Williams

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