From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Inconsistency in meaning of "user options" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:23:26 +0100 Message-ID: <439E147E.3070700@student.lu.se> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134433585 23466 80.91.229.2 (13 Dec 2005 00:26:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 13 01:26:24 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Elxyx-0004Zo-Dz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:25:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElxzT-0001n5-C6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:25:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Elxxg-0000kG-So for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:24:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Elxxf-0000ht-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:24:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Elxxf-0000hH-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:24:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.164] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ElxzS-0004oH-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:25:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 43960D0D001C6F90; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:23:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47582 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > That would maybe be good. Perhaps could we use these terms?: > > 1) user options > 2) custom options (to be distinguished from "Custom options" ;-) > > I guess the meaning here is obvious, but just in case: 1 - > those can not be set with Custom, 2 - those can be set with custom. > >No, the meaning is not obvious, at least in American English. Something that >is "custom" (e.g. a "custom motorcycle") is something that _has been_ >customized. The term to use for customizable is "customizable", not >"custom". > > Oh thanks, it is a bit hard with a foreign language. I would expect an option that had been changed to be called "customized" perhaps, but not "custom". easy-customizable option, e-customizable option? (it is more a joke...), custom-customizable option - too long, custom-enabled option, custom-setable option, defcustom option - we actually use this sometimes and I like it. But can the normal user understand that term? custom-enabled seems better to me then, but I do not know what that alludes to for you native english speakers. >It's also not clear to me what you gain by changing "Custom" to "custom", if >your meaning of "custom" is "Custom" (can be set with Custom). My point was >precisely to find some term that is different from "custom", to avoid >confusion. > It was just a joke. I suppose "Custom option" would mean one of those that you use to change the behaviour of Custom with.