From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should not tutorial always use the default global map? Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:05:45 +0100 Message-ID: <439CA2B9.6060308@student.lu.se> References: <439B82F8.4090207@student.lu.se> <87wticz1zz.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <85pso328gr.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134339004 3466 80.91.229.2 (11 Dec 2005 22:10:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: belanger@truman.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 11 23:09:55 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElZM5-0007v2-FQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:07:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElZMX-0002VJ-6s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:08:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElZKm-00010G-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:06:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElZKk-0000xV-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:06:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElZKk-0000ww-E7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:06:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ElZMK-0006Rk-Sa; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:07:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 43995DE90008A441; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:05:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47481 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>From: David Kastrup >>Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:12:36 +0100 >>Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> >> >>>>If you know Emacs enough to change the default key bindings, you don't >>>>need the Tutorial. >>>> >>>> >>>The person who changed the bindings isn't necessarily the person >>>reading the tutorial. >>> >>> >>Then the person who changed the bindings should be drawn and quartered >>for changing the other person's bindings >> >> > >Indeed. > > If we perhaps would just for this time let him/her go away and as an example for humankind be more friendly we could for example add this two lines at the end of `help-with-tutorial': (make-local-variable 'emulation-mode-map-alists) (setq emulation-mode-map-alists nil) This would let the tutorial work just as it is supposed to do. We could also add a line at the top explaining this. Anyone more than me for this peaceful solution?