From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 02:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4398D907.10200@student.lu.se> References: <200512072349.jB7Nn5fB031485@brains.moreideas.ca> <878xuwwdp4.fsf@jurta.org> <200512080230.jB82U8003974@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87hd9j42g3.fsf@jurta.org> <200512090057.jB90vUp11257@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134090661 26742 80.91.229.2 (9 Dec 2005 01:11:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 01:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 09 02:10:59 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkWlX-0004Hn-LD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 02:09:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkWlq-0000y3-L2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:09:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkWkt-0000i0-Kz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:08:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkWkr-0000hE-Ro for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:08:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkWkr-0000h9-Jj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:08:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.164] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EkWly-0001sn-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:10:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 43960D0D000B7882; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 02:08:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200512090057.jB90vUp11257@raven.dms.auburn.edu> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47271 Archived-At: Luc Teirlinck wrote: >They were not _deliberately_ left in a non-working state for years. >Nobody knew that they were in a non-working state, because nobody >apparently ever clicked on them for years. > > I doubt that nobody clicked on them. Could it not be that our feedback mechanisms are a bit too weak to catch things like this? A beginner could click those without understanding what was happening and without understanding how to ask. The feedback on a complicated user interface is perhaps problematic?