From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:47:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4397F30F.6060309@student.lu.se> References: <200512072349.jB7Nn5fB031485@brains.moreideas.ca> <878xuwwdp4.fsf@jurta.org> <200512080321.jB83LZv04680@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134042618 30908 80.91.229.2 (8 Dec 2005 11:50:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 08 12:50:15 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkKHi-0005Ej-DT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:50:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkKFN-0003vi-Uo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 06:47:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkHRI-0003Gc-8U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 03:47:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkHRG-0003G5-MQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 03:47:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkHRF-0003Fo-Oo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 03:47:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.164] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EkHSE-0003If-Rj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 03:48:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 43960D0D00071D4C; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:47:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200512080321.jB83LZv04680@raven.dms.auburn.edu> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47218 Archived-At: Luc Teirlinck wrote: >>>From my previous message: > > One should under no circumstances encourage anybody, certainly not > beginners, to use these buttons. They are completely untested: nobody > uses them. Their code is fragile. Any apparently unrelated change in > Custom can easily badly break them badly without warning (and nobody > will notice, because nobody uses them). > >Let me give one example of what I mean with: > > Thanks for your explanations. May I then suggest that we start using these buttons and Custom in general? I have already done so for quite a while. Without using Custom I felt it was difficult to have any opinion on it. (Of course using it makes it a bit difficult to have opinions on the look and feel instead, because you get used to it but that is another story.) I always use the top buttons for changing things. Though I seldom use customize-group to change anything. I use it however to get an overview over options (though the current layout is not very good for that).