From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:31:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4395F51B.8060401@student.lu.se> References: <200512061909.jB6J99lg007547@brains.moreideas.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133901616 15289 80.91.229.2 (6 Dec 2005 20:40:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: zedek@gnu-rox.org, Chong Yidong , rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 06 21:40:11 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjjX4-0000Wm-O8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:35:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjjXH-0000fd-1L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:35:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EjjTa-0005v3-Gt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:31:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EjjTZ-0005uT-Mo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:31:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjjTZ-0005tm-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:31:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.159] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EjjUG-0006YO-MR; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:32:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.069.1) id 4394B97C0004B17D; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 21:31:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Peter Whaite In-Reply-To: <200512061909.jB6J99lg007547@brains.moreideas.ca> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47066 Archived-At: Peter Whaite wrote: >You would also expect something about finding customizations to be in >the info that is displayed when you press the 'Help' button, but there >is nothing obvious. The documentation for 'customize-apropos' is under >'Specific Customization' which doesn't exactly jump out at you. How >about renaming it to 'Finding Customizations', and changing the info >node header to 'Finding and Customizing Specific Items'? > >There is also no mention of customize-apropos-options, >customize-apropos-groups, or customize-apropos-faces. There should be. > > I have already once proposed and written a new look and feel for the custom buffer. Now is not the time to do that perhaps (and my old patch will not work now), but some simple things can be done now to make the situation a bit better: *** 1) At the top of the customize buffer there are now two buttons that does not work on the content of the buffer at all. These are Invoke [Custom File] for information... Invoke [Help] for general information. Changing the look of this buttons to just underlined text would improve things a lot. They are really just links. Changing "Invoke" to "See" would make it less of a guessing game too. *** 2) When you click on the "Help" link (button) then the info node "(emacs) Easy Customization" is displayed. I believe the customize-apropos-* functions should be mentioned there, right after "Groups" in the menu at the bottom.