From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key-binding clash between gnus and calc Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:00:36 +0100 Message-ID: <4385C784.4080000@student.lu.se> References: <87r79fuf4z.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <87u0e7i3us.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <87fyppi8cl.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <87mzjxdk66.fsf@jurta.org> <85iruk4qnf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87br0co9ym.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <87zmnwmhlv.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <87irujq3ls.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <85psorzskw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87acfv60ne.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <87hda2b3es.fsf@mahaena.lrde> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132845996 14502 80.91.229.2 (24 Nov 2005 15:26:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 24 16:26:34 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfIxi-0003rk-LI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:24:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfIlb-0004Wr-K0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 10:12:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EfHmA-0001Fw-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EfHkY-0000fP-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfHf8-0007Sd-A6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:01:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.159] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EfHf7-0001HU-S2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:01:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.069.1) id 4384D3AA0004238D; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:00:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Michael Cadilhac In-Reply-To: <87hda2b3es.fsf@mahaena.lrde> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46514 Archived-At: Michael Cadilhac wrote: >"Robert J. Chassell" writes: > > > >>On an American keyboard, the prefix `C-x*' is harder to type than >>`C-x\'. (I do not know about other keyboards with default bindings. >>As far as I know, `C-x\' is undefined.) >> >>Thus, `C-x\g' (calc-grab-region) is not bad for such a command. >> >> > >Well, on a french keyboard, the `\' key is AltGR+8 (Yes, it's silly). > >In other words, it's one of the harder thing to type (using thumbs >and index of the same hand) :-) > > On a swedish keyboard it it AltGr +. But talking about "hard to type" I wonder if people here does not use "StickyKeys"? (This is platform dependent with a bit different names but at least exists in w32 and Gnome.) With "StickyKeys" you type the keys one-by-one. A real pain-saver when you are using Emacs keys.