From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Time to install the new icons Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:52:20 +0100 Message-ID: <437FBAB4.6050205@student.lu.se> References: <437BA878.6030700@student.lu.se> <87veysb5mk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <437BB383.1000208@student.lu.se> <437F79AB.4000706@ourcomments.org> <437F950E.9050106@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132444378 15779 80.91.229.2 (19 Nov 2005 23:52:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: andrew_zhilin@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 20 00:52:55 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EdcVg-0006QI-Gq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:52:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EdcVf-0003rs-V7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:52:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EdcVM-0003rH-Lr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:52:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EdcVL-0003qd-UO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:52:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EdcVL-0003qI-Np for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:52:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.98] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EdcVL-0007CF-3t; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:52:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 437DDFC200040EF4; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:52:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46302 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>And unfortunately I can not look at the png files in etc/images/icons. >> >> >>The copies I have downloaded from CVS are perhaps broken on my pc. I am >>using w32 and cvsnt from Oct 9 2005. Must something special be done to >>download the images on w32? >> >> > >I use -kb for all the files, and beyond that didn't need anything >special. The *.png files are marked -kb anyway, so I cannot imagine >what could be the problem. > > Strange. I tried to download them again. Firefox says "The image file "file://...../emacs/etc/images/icons/emacs_16.png" cannot be displayed because it contains errors". Could it be cvsnt that is broken? (I do not suggest so because I do not at all know the details here. I just ask.) BTW when trying to open the icon file within Emacs instead I get two different errors depending on how I do this. If I use C-x C-f (find-file) I get the error "Cannot determine image type". If I open the file from dired it is opened but displayed as text in a buffer where the command line says "(image)". (But for Emacs it might be some of my patches for w32 that might be stopping some updates. I have to look throught these again.) >Both: I say that we have now 32x32 and 48x48 icons, and each one has 2 >variants, one each for dark and light background. And I say that the >new icon, if we accept it, should have the same 4 versions. > > Can you then please tell me where these are? > > >>I do not understand your comments about sizes either. Did you perhaps >>forget 16x16? I was just asking about 24x24 to be sure. Was that size >>perhaps needed on another platform than w32? >> >> > >All I know is that we now have only 32x32 and 48x48 icons in nt/icons. >That means these two sizes are enough to satisfy users' needs on >Windows. So I asked for the new icon to be of the same sizes. > > I think I wrote long before that those sizes most of the time does not work very well for 16x16. > > >>The icon from Andrew actually include versions for 256 colors and 32-bit >>colors (which I believe is for xp), but no 24-bit color version. >> >> > >How many colors we have in nt/icons icons? > > The current emacs.ico file contains only a 16-color icon 32x32 pixels. I do not think it looks very nice either when viewed as 32x32 or 16x16. I do not think it would be a good idea to use only a 16-color icon for Andrews pictures. I am however not sure if should try to make a 16-color version too (and I doubt it can be made good looking). I do not remember when it is used.