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From: Lars Hansen <larsh@soem.dk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Start value in minibuffer [Was: opening /tmp//foo doesn't work.]
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:50:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4377B512.3050303@soem.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874q6hlqzc.fsf@stupidchicken.com>

Chong Yidong wrote:

>The reason is convenience.  This allows you to enter a new filename
>without having to erase the default offered in the minibuffer.  (A
>similar example: /tmp/~/foo goes to ~/foo).  I use this feature all
>the time.
>  
>
To me this feature seems as a rather awkward work-around the lack of a
general way to handle start values in the minibuffer.

I believe a good handling should allow the user to easily use the start
value in any of these ways:

1. As a default value.
2. As a template.
3. Not at all.

1. If the user just hits return, the start value should be used as a
default value.
2. If something similar to the start value is needed, it should be
possible the edit it. This is convenient in eg. a rename command if the
old name is inserted as the start value.
3. If one don't want to use the start value, it is annoying to have to
delete it. In this case it should possible to simply type what one wants
instead.

For those of you that use pc-selection-mode, I believe there is a
natural way to fulfill these requirements. Just try this:

(add-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook 'select-minibuffer-contents)

(defun select-minibuffer-contents ()
  "Select minibuffer contents."
  (set-mark (point-max))
  (goto-char (minibuffer-prompt-end)))

(defadvice next-history-element (after select-minibuffer-contents activate)
  "Select minibuffer contents."
  (set-mark (point-max))
  (goto-char (minibuffer-prompt-end))
  (setq deactivate-mark nil))

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-13 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-12 10:47 opening /tmp//foo doesn't work Han Boetes
2005-11-12 14:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-11-12 15:15   ` Han Boetes
2005-11-12 15:55     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-11-12 16:11       ` Han Boetes
2005-11-12 16:22         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-11-12 16:38 ` Tomas Zerolo
2005-11-12 17:23   ` Chong Yidong
2005-11-13 21:50     ` Lars Hansen [this message]
2005-11-13 22:36       ` Start value in minibuffer [Was: opening /tmp//foo doesn't work.] Drew Adams
2005-11-13 22:45         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-13 22:57           ` Drew Adams
2005-11-13 23:08             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-15  5:42             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14  0:34           ` Miles Bader
2005-11-14  0:43             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-13 23:22         ` Start value in minibuffer Stefan Monnier
2005-11-13 23:48           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-11-14  0:55             ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-14  2:35               ` Drew Adams
2005-11-14 10:56                 ` Lars Hansen
2005-11-14 17:36                   ` Drew Adams
2005-11-14  9:40         ` Start value in minibuffer [Was: opening /tmp//foo doesn't work.] Lars Hansen
2005-11-14 12:47       ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-14 22:44         ` Lars Hansen
2005-11-14 23:06           ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-15 17:06             ` Lars Hansen
2005-11-15 17:33               ` Miles Bader
2005-11-15 17:56                 ` Lars Hansen
2005-11-15 18:39               ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-11-15 18:08           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-12 20:07   ` opening /tmp//foo doesn't work Randal L. Schwartz
2005-11-12 18:11 ` Turning on file-name-shadow-mode by default (was: opening /tmp//foo doesn't work.) Reiner Steib
2005-11-12 20:06   ` Miles Bader
2005-11-12 21:17     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-12 21:38       ` Miles Bader
2005-11-13 21:08       ` Turning on file-name-shadow-mode by default Stefan Monnier
2005-11-13 23:57         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-14 17:48         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 23:23           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-15  0:57             ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-15  2:12               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-15  2:19                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-15  3:04                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-15  3:08                   ` Miles Bader
2005-11-15  3:19                     ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-15  3:13                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-15  3:18                     ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-15  4:13                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-15  4:43                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-15 22:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-15 18:08             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-15 23:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-13 20:54   ` Turning on file-name-shadow-mode by default (was: opening /tmp//foo doesn't work.) Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14  0:09     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-16  3:17     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-12 21:21 ` opening /tmp//foo doesn't work Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-12 23:16   ` Drew Adams
2005-11-13  9:28   ` Lars Hansen
2005-11-13 21:05 ` Stefan Monnier

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