From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : New key binding syntax Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 15:10:08 +0100 Message-ID: <4371985.yOQEpiRy8s@galex-713.eu> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29658"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers , Richard Stallman , Drew Adams , Stefan Kangas To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 15:36:36 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mniWi-0007Wc-9Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 15:36:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33004 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mniWg-0005NF-UU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:36:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mniVq-0003hV-Rm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:35:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a00:5884:8305::1] (port=50040 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mniVp-0004iG-0C; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:35:42 -0500 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mni77-0000oM-AA; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 15:10:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:5884:8305::1 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279677 Archived-At: Le jeudi 18 novembre 2021, 06:01:13 CET Yuri Khan a =C3=A9crit : > On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 10:54, Richard Stallman wrote: > > > Most software use that convention, > >=20 > > Not in my experience. I have never seen + used to indicate > > keyboard modifier keys. Always C-x, never C+x. >=20 > Never C+x, because it=E2=80=99s spelled Ctrl+X. And Alt+X. And the letter= s are > capitals because Shift is spelled out explicitly. >=20 > Keys are not ASCII characters. They can be related. You could set up a keymap layout where each key is=20 capital, and pressing shift makes them lowercase, at the opposite of the=20 normal working, or even something more weird. So the fact to capitalize keys makes the key sequence transcription=20 strictly less powerful But it can be useful, mostly because capitals, alone, are often considered= =20 easier to read (especially when your sight starts to degrade with age)