From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Davis Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar deficiency Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <43549.128.165.0.81.1181687920.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: <466D8F06.6010906@gnu.org> <466DA866.4080907@gnu.org> Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181687943 30868 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2007 22:39:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Sam Steingold" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 13 00:39:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HyF0n-00008C-6h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:38:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyF0m-0006Ip-BQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:38:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HyF0i-0006IN-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HyF0f-0006I5-RL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyF0f-0006I2-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:38:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov ([192.65.95.54] helo=mailwasher-b.lanl.gov) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HyF0e-0002qb-37; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:38:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l5CMcfwq029917; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:38:41 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l5CMcfVd022659; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:38:41 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l5CMcf48007971; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:38:41 -0600 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id l5CMceA2007969; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:38:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.lanl.gov: apache set sender to herring@lanl.gov using -f Original-Received: from 128.165.0.81 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434) by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:38:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <466DA866.4080907@gnu.org> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-6.el3.2lanl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72723 Archived-At: >> Some toolkits call it the "thumb". > > thanks. what is a "slider" (is there such a word?) In my experience, a slider is an almost-ubiquitous control that looks like this: Amount of sliding: _ ---| |----------------- V | | | | | Rubber Ice The pentagon can be dragged along the line with the mouse or moved with keyboard arrows when it has the focus. It's very similar to a scroll bar except that the dragger (the thumb) does not have width (it is mounted as if by a pin to the track) and so is used when a value and not a range (as of visibility) is being specified. Sometimes it appears rotated CCW by a quarter-turn. Sorry if that's redundant or excessively verbose, but I'm hoping to be understood regardless of anyone's prior experience. Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.