From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Another Emacs icon Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:35:38 +0200 Message-ID: <434A6E2A.60900@student.lu.se> References: <32160126.1128675846576.JavaMail.www@wwinf1402> <4346C6E5.8000908@student.lu.se> <87zmpk50vp.fsf@jurta.org> <4347112C.7060304@student.lu.se> <87k6gnbfdz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128951515 18403 80.91.229.2 (10 Oct 2005 13:38:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 10 15:38:25 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOxpO-0003g6-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:36:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOxpO-0001cY-30 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EOxop-0001au-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:35:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EOxon-0001Z6-Cg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:35:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOxon-0001Yo-7a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:35:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.164] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EOxon-00007J-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:35:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.200.75) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 4349BC2800022517; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:35:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43798 Archived-At: Robert J. Chassell wrote: > The reason why using "M-x" does not appeal to me > is that I don't think of that as the central > feature of Emacs. ... > >Indeed, "M-x" is designed for commands that do not have a short key >sequence. It is for commands that are `left over' from frequent use. > > I can not really argue against you, you are definitively more experts than me on this. However I still think that M-x is a central feature. I do not think of those commands that I do not have a key binding for in my Emacs as "left overs". For me they are enhancements. And the ability to write enhancements to Emacs is a central feature ... ;-) On the other hand I like David's latest icon. Maybe the small icon could be changed to just have an "E" instead of "Emacs" (which is a bit hard to read on the 16x16 icon)?