From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, david.ponce@wanadoo.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Another Emacs icon
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 03:06:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43486D30.3070700@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1EONcY-0000vu-5i@fencepost.gnu.org>
Richard M. Stallman wrote:
>I see no sense in an Emacs icon that would say "M-x".
>If it says anything, it should be "Emacs" or an "E".
>A picture of a GNU makes no sense as the icon for Emacs in
>particular.
>
>
I believe that whether some special symbol in the icon make sense
depends on the circumstances. If something is wellknown I think other
rules should be applied then otherwise. For most of us here on the list
think that both M-x and the picture of the GNU make sense but for people
who are not that familiar with GNU or Emacs it might not do that
immidiately perhaps.
Since it seems to be somewhat difficult to find acceptable icons maybe
it helps if we think about what kind of icons we want. I see two main types:
1) Informative icons - those showing what the program does
2) Logo style icons - more like a logo for a company
And of course many are a mix of those. Some examples of this are the
logos for Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice etc. None of these include
the name in the icons. Instead the icons has a style that should be
easily recognizable. They all use some kind of symbolic memnonics
adhering to what the programs do. In the case of OpenOffice they had
been able to make several different icons with a common style for
different subprograms, each with a piece of common mnemonics and a bit
of dividing mnemonics.
In the case of Emacs perhaps the icon should use some mnemonic of this
kind. It is however not so easy to tell what this should allude to. Some
people might use Emacs for just creating documents. Other use it as a
programming IDE. And for those really into it Emacs does a lot of
things, mail, IRC, etc. Maybe it is a toolkit?
Another way of looking at this is to say that Emacs is different because
it has history and fame. It is part of the GNU face so to say. Looking
at it this way it is more a logo style icon we should have - probably
with some GNU picture. And "M-x" of course has some fame too (IMHO). You
have to know it to really use Emacs, of course. And M-x also alludes to
the toolkit view. This way of looking at the icons is reflected in the
current choice of splash screen.
Saying "Emacs" in the icon might seem to allude to the history and fame
too. It is just that to me it seems unnecessary. You will not often see
the icon without some text saying just "Emacs".
Well, you might guess my opinion ;-) -- but I have tried to give our
choices some structure here. HTH.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-09 1:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-07 9:04 Another Emacs icon David PONCE
2005-10-07 14:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-07 14:30 ` Michael Cadilhac
2005-10-07 14:37 ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-07 19:05 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-07 23:07 ` Juri Linkov
2005-10-08 0:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-08 22:56 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-09 1:06 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2005-10-09 2:20 ` Chong Yidong
2005-10-10 4:15 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-10 12:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-10-10 13:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-10-10 13:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-11 1:33 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-10-08 4:21 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-10 7:58 ` Mathias Dahl
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