From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Avoiding moving point into minibuffer prompt area Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:14:32 +0200 Message-ID: <43031C18.9030700@student.lu.se> References: <43014167.5000109@student.lu.se> <3moe7xuebn.fsf@tiscali.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1124278594 17132 80.91.229.2 (17 Aug 2005 11:36:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 17 13:36:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5MC5-0006Ps-4m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:34:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5MFX-0003vo-Qd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:38:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E5M8u-00027c-Dn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E5M8i-00025k-Dr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:31:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5M8h-0001mQ-GS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:31:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E5M8S-0001Sj-OR; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:31:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.200.233) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 42BFBBD2007FA9C1; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:14:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Emilio Lopes In-Reply-To: <3moe7xuebn.fsf@tiscali.de> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42176 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:42176 Emilio Lopes wrote: >Richard M Stallman writes: > > > >> I think it is quite confusing that you can move the point into >> the prompt area in the minibuffer. Why don't we use something >> like the code below to avoid this: >> >> > > > >>If we want to make it impossible to move point into the prompt, it >>should suffice to give it an intangible property of t, right? >>People could try that and see if they like it. However, we've >>already seen one person say that he finds it useful to move into the >>prompt. >> >> > >I think the situation is somewhat similar with the case of e-mail >headers in Rmail. Having used fascist e-mail clients before I was >scared that with Emacs you could indeed *change* the headers yourself >and maybe even break something. But with time I learned to appreciate >the extra power. > >I myself don't move into the prompt that often, but I like to know >that I can if I need to, without having to hunt for some newly added >user option. > >So, comfort and ease-of-use, yes; restriction and over-protection, no. > > -ECL > > But you are asking for protection (for yourself) aren't you? ;-) I will not answer on the list since Richard asked us not to discuss this their any more. Best wishes, Lennart