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From: Joe Buehler <jbuehler@spirentcom.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	 emacs_user@hotmail.com,   cygwin@cygwin.com,
	 emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:12:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42FB6AF2.2060301@spirentcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1E3E1X-0003e9-Kh@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard M. Stallman wrote:

>     When GC encounters a fatal inconsistency in the Emacs data structures,
>     it is generally unsafe to say anything, since that could easily cause
>     a nested fatal signal.
> 
> It would also not be very useful, since any info we could put into
> such an error message could be quickly discovered by a little
> investigation with a debugger.

I have to disgree with that, it's the instant gut ueber-programmer
reaction to such problems.   Currently the user just gets an exiting
emacs, leaving me with no clue as to why emacs exited.  I then have to
provide instructions to the user as to how to run the $*&$%#!!! debugger
to help me figure out what happened.  The debugger that he may or may
not have installed, and may or may not even be ABLE to install.

A simple last-ditch printf that says "corruption detected during
garbage collection, see you later" would be a much easier way to get an
initial handle on what the heck the problem is.  As it was, without any
message, my initial suspicion was a SEGV or similar, which would be
much more likely to be a Cygwin problem than an emacs problem.
-- 
Joe Buehler



  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-11 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-08  6:21 is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs? emacs user
2005-08-08 10:31 ` Ehud Karni
2005-08-08 11:36   ` Joe Buehler
2005-08-09  5:08   ` emacs user
2005-08-09 18:05     ` Ehud Karni
2005-08-09 18:15       ` Joe Buehler
2005-08-10 10:47         ` emacs user
2005-08-10 11:37           ` Joe Buehler
2005-08-10 17:56             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-10 20:18               ` emacs user
2005-08-11  3:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-11 14:27               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-11 15:12                 ` Joe Buehler [this message]
2005-08-12 14:59                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-12 17:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-11 17:17                 ` emacs user
2005-08-16  8:47         ` stackdump on cygwin (was: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?) emacs user
2005-08-16  9:05           ` Brian Dessent
2005-08-17  4:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-18  6:45         ` is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs? emacs user
2005-08-19  8:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-28 20:57         ` emacs user
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-09 18:15 David Masterson
2005-08-09 18:27 ` Joe Buehler
2005-08-09 21:02 ` emacs user
2005-08-09 18:31 David Masterson
2005-08-09 18:43 ` Joe Buehler
     [not found] <42F9E5E8.7010908@spirentcom.com>
2005-08-10 13:36 ` emacs user

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