From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 15:19:17 +0200 Message-ID: <42F75BD5.5050801@student.lu.se> References: <42F34A82.9070703@student.lu.se> <42F3F3D7.7060506@student.lu.se> <42F541C5.5000605@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1123508952 25330 80.91.229.2 (8 Aug 2005 13:49:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 13:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 08 15:49:10 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E27yo-0002KU-CA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 15:47:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E281o-0002F4-TT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:50:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E27wo-0006OR-V5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:45:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E27sC-0004cF-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E27s8-0004NQ-9c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E27kt-0006dA-5a; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:33:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.202.75) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 42BFBBD20066DAE4; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:19:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41708 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:41708 Richard M. Stallman wrote: > "You have typed %THIS-KEY%, the help character. Type a Help option: > -\(Use SPC or DEL to scroll through this text. Type \\\\[help-quit] to exit the Help command.) > +\(Use Page Up/Down to scroll through this text. Type \\\\[help-quit] to exit the Help command.) > >I would rather not change that message. Not all terminals have Page Up >and Page Down. > > + (format "Type one of the options listed, or %s: " > + (if (pos-visible-in-window-p (point-max)) > + "Page Up" > + (if (pos-visible-in-window-p (point-min)) > + "Page Down" > + "or Page Up/Down to scroll")))) > + char (aref key 0))) > + > >Likewise, here I'd rather have it say SPC and DEL. > >Please change that and install your patch. > > Could you please consider the patch I send after this first? That include changes that makes help available for isearh in a sensible way and I think that is important. I thought you might disagree on SPC and DEL but the reason I still did the change was because it is mostly new users that use this and need help with scrolling. They probably do not user terminals I believe. Are you sure SPC and DEL are better?