From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server - getting paper size
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:07:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42D841C3.4010903@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85y887pulr.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
David Kastrup wrote:
>>Ghostscript is not installed that way on w32. It is not supposed to
>>be find in the PATH. That is because the w32 "architecture" is
>>different. You can only find Ghostscript through the registry (or
>>searching the whole disk ;-)
>>
>>
>
>Does not sound too intelligent.
>
>
I believe that this was my first thought long ago too, but I am actually
not sure it is not an intelligent solution. You have to have more of the
picture to decide that I believe.
>>That would be very nice. The problem is however that until this is
>>done Emacs is kind of a second class citizen that do not have access
>>to things all other w32 programs has. And that makes for a bad
>>impression.
>>
>>
>
>So unless the registry access is required for implementing some
>cross-platform functionality, there is no motivation to add it into
>Emacs because that would only encourage unportable applications.
>
>The right way to go about this is first to create an API that is
>useful across operating systems. Then this API can be filled with
>life. It would appear that on Posix system, this would entail a
>read-only interface into setlocale(3), and maybe on w32 reading
>registry keys. Whether those interfaces should be exposed to Lisp, is
>a different question. It would make sense to define this stuff with
>the Posix semantics, and then let w32-specific code translate this
>into the respective registry reading calls.
>
>
Yes, I agree. On w32 I think at least new users would expect this to
work. If we want them to switch to GNU/Linux then I believe we should
anticipate that they will expect this on GNU/Linux too. If you think
this is the right way to go then I would be glad if you (or someone
else) did this for Posix systems. Then I (or someone else) will
implement this on w32 because at least I feel it is the right way to go.
>What capability? Reading the registry? Don't be silly. Querying the
>paper size? Well, I don't see why that omission should be less of a
>problem on a Unix-like operating system.
>
Fine, then we could perhaps have a common goal in this small but not
unimportant detail. It is not unimportant since it is part of a bigger
picture concerning the integration with the OS that new users probably
do expect.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-15 23:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-15 7:01 w32 does not have emacsclient/server Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 8:29 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-15 12:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 15:07 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 16:52 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 20:45 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-17 3:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-17 17:36 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-17 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-18 16:33 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-15 8:31 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 12:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 12:37 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 12:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 15:12 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 16:59 ` w32 does not have emacsclient/server - getting paper size Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 17:13 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 17:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 21:20 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-15 21:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 22:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 22:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 22:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 23:07 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2005-07-16 6:14 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-16 9:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 11:56 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-17 3:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-17 0:59 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-16 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-15 23:09 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-15 23:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 23:40 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-17 0:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-16 6:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-16 8:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 9:03 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-16 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 9:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 10:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 10:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 11:42 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 12:44 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 21:57 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 22:30 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-16 10:58 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 11:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 11:50 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 12:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 13:36 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 12:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 13:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 13:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 21:55 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 12:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-17 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 9:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 10:10 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 14:33 ` w32 does not have emacsclient/server Jason Rumney
2005-07-15 14:52 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 15:15 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 20:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-27 14:34 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-27 15:45 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-27 16:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-27 16:31 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-28 17:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-05 1:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05 7:59 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05 9:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-05 9:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-05 23:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-06 7:12 ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-06 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-06 9:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-06 11:08 ` Stephan Stahl
2005-08-06 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-06 11:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-05 20:38 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-05 21:34 ` David Kastrup
2005-08-05 23:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05 23:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-06 0:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-06 11:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 12:43 ` David Kastrup
2005-08-06 13:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 17:45 ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-06 17:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 6:59 ` David Kastrup
2005-08-06 13:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 14:03 ` David Kastrup
2005-08-07 17:15 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-07 20:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-09 0:26 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-09 0:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 18:35 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-06 18:44 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05 11:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-08 23:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-09 0:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-10 0:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-09 0:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-10 0:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-10 0:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-15 15:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-15 15:48 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-18 6:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-15 17:15 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 23:24 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-07-15 17:53 ` Guy Gascoigne - Piggford
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