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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server - getting paper size
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:07:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42D841C3.4010903@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85y887pulr.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

David Kastrup wrote:

>>Ghostscript is not installed that way on w32. It is not supposed to
>>be find in the PATH. That is because the w32 "architecture" is
>>different. You can only find Ghostscript through the registry (or
>>searching the whole disk ;-)
>>    
>>
>
>Does not sound too intelligent.
>  
>
I believe that this was my first thought long ago too, but I am actually 
not sure it is not an intelligent solution. You have to have more of the 
picture to decide that I believe.

>>That would be very nice. The problem is however that until this is
>>done Emacs is kind of a second class citizen that do not have access
>>to things all other w32 programs has.  And that makes for a bad
>>impression.
>>    
>>
>
>So unless the registry access is required for implementing some
>cross-platform functionality, there is no motivation to add it into
>Emacs because that would only encourage unportable applications.
>
>The right way to go about this is first to create an API that is
>useful across operating systems.  Then this API can be filled with
>life.  It would appear that on Posix system, this would entail a
>read-only interface into setlocale(3), and maybe on w32 reading
>registry keys.  Whether those interfaces should be exposed to Lisp, is
>a different question.  It would make sense to define this stuff with
>the Posix semantics, and then let w32-specific code translate this
>into the respective registry reading calls.
>  
>
Yes, I agree.  On w32 I think at least new users would expect this to 
work. If we want them to switch to GNU/Linux then I believe we should 
anticipate that they will expect this on GNU/Linux too. If you think 
this is the right way to go then I would be glad if you (or someone 
else) did this for Posix systems. Then I (or someone else) will 
implement this on w32 because at least I feel it is the right way to go.

>What capability?  Reading the registry?  Don't be silly.  Querying the
>paper size?  Well, I don't see why that omission should be less of a
>problem on a Unix-like operating system.
>
Fine, then we could perhaps have a common goal in this small but not 
unimportant detail. It is not unimportant since it is part of a bigger 
picture concerning the integration with the OS that new users probably 
do expect.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-15 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-15  7:01 w32 does not have emacsclient/server Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15  8:29 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-15 12:40   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 15:07     ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 16:52       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 18:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 20:45       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-17  3:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-17 17:36           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-17 18:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-18 16:33               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-15  8:31 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 12:21   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 12:37     ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 12:50       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 15:12         ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 16:59           ` w32 does not have emacsclient/server - getting paper size Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 17:13             ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 17:55               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 21:20                 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-15 21:39                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 22:00                     ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 22:13                       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 22:33                         ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 23:07                           ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2005-07-16  6:14                             ` David Kastrup
2005-07-16  9:46                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 11:56                                 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-17  3:30                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-17  0:59                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-16  9:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-15 23:09                         ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-15 23:22                           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 23:40                             ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-17  0:58                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-16  6:02                             ` David Kastrup
2005-07-16  8:31                               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16  9:03                                 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-16  9:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16  9:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 10:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 10:28                       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 11:42                         ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 12:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 12:44                           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 21:57                           ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 22:30                             ` David Kastrup
2005-07-16 10:58                       ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 11:07                         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 11:50                           ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 12:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 12:53                               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 13:22                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 13:36                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 12:40                             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 13:29                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 13:39                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-16 21:55                                 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-16 12:00                       ` David Kastrup
2005-07-17  3:32                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16  9:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-16 10:10                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 14:33     ` w32 does not have emacsclient/server Jason Rumney
2005-07-15 14:52       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 15:15         ` David Kastrup
2005-07-15 20:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-27 14:34             ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-27 15:45               ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-27 16:16                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-27 16:31                   ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-28 17:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-05  1:43             ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05  7:59               ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05  9:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-05  9:09                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05 18:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-05 23:10                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06  6:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-06  7:12                           ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-06  8:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-06  9:30                               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-06 11:08                                 ` Stephan Stahl
2005-08-06 14:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-06 11:21                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 14:52                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-05 20:38                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-05 21:34                       ` David Kastrup
2005-08-05 23:12                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05 23:48                         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-06  0:02                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06  6:58                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-06 11:20                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 12:43                                 ` David Kastrup
2005-08-06 13:43                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 17:45                                 ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-06 17:54                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06  6:59                             ` David Kastrup
2005-08-06 13:45                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 14:03                                 ` David Kastrup
2005-08-07 17:15                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-07 20:31                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-09  0:26                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-09  0:39                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-06 18:35                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-06 18:44                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-05 11:06                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-08 23:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-09  0:12                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-10  0:42                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-09  0:19                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-10  0:49                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-10  0:58                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-15 15:13       ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-15 15:48         ` David Kastrup
2005-07-18  6:22           ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-15 17:15         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-15 23:24           ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-07-15 17:53   ` Guy Gascoigne - Piggford

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