From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sorting of directories in dired Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:53:01 +0200 Message-ID: <42CD881D.6080905@student.lu.se> References: <4825c0f482397d.482397d4825c0f@net.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120766266 1080 80.91.229.2 (7 Jul 2005 19:57:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hober0@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 21:57:42 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqcU5-00025R-F1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:56:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqcVS-0006FX-FE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:57:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqcUr-0005ut-LU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqcUm-0005sK-Vk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:57:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqcUm-0005p1-Ij for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:57:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DqcXF-0002nt-31; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:59:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.205.6) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 42BFBBD200202486; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:53:03 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40585 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40585 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >And what, may I ask, do you use outside Emacs? Isn't it "ls -l"? ;-) > > > Uhm..., I have done that a couple of times... Sadly enough I am working mostly from the cmd shell. I have tried for example MSYS sh, but I found that the integration with ms windows is not good enough for me. The cmd shell has become better and better. It simply takes too long time to try to use some sh now. That is also what I have found with my previous tries with Emacs. The documentation has been bad on the windows side so those of us windows only users who survive as Emacs users do that in resistance to the resistance we meet. Everything has taken much, much time. Considering that that time is taken from us who wants to promote free software it seems to me to be a bad strategy not to help users on w32 as much as we can. The majority of the computer users are using w32 (as I guess you know ...;-) I thought I should try to change what w32 users are meeting, but I can not do that alone ;-) Whenever I want to write scripts I use perl.