From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AltGr finger twisters documented? Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: <42CAB75C.9010208@gnu.org> References: <42CA7FF8.5050402@student.lu.se> <763C4DA6-2025-4EE1-ADD1-69350F931C16@swipnet.se> <8AE2EF76-8EFB-478A-88BE-1B0CCF5EC034@swipnet.se> <42CAB252.3030407@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120584005 25118 80.91.229.2 (5 Jul 2005 17:20:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , "Jan D." , Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 19:20:01 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpr4S-0007f0-W4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:18:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpr5j-0002hX-NY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:20:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpr3A-0000jU-1O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:17:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpr37-0000i8-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpqwh-0006n0-L2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:10:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.207.198.106] (helo=exchange.integrasp.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DpqVP-0002q6-C2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:42:43 -0400 Original-Received: from ASSP-nospam (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by exchange.integrasp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NLJQCWFD; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:34:08 +0100 Original-Received: from 10.10.5.77 ([10.10.5.77] helo=[10.10.5.77]) by ASSP-nospam ; 5 Jul 05 16:34:07 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <42CAB252.3030407@student.lu.se> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40438 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40438 Lennart Borgman wrote: > Thanks. I then consider the behaviour on w32 to be a bug (if there is > no intention with this behaviour of course). What would other think of > this? Sure it's a bug, but a bug of the OS. Setting w32-recognize-altgr to nil appears to avoid this bug for people who don't need AltGr at all. The bug is that Windows does not have a separate modifier flag for AltGr, it uses Left-Ctrl + Right-Alt flags to indicate that AltGr is being pressed. So we can't tell that Left-Ctrl is pressed when AltGr is down. If you can find a proper fix for this bug, we can probably get rid of w32-recognize-altgr.