From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AltGr finger twisters documented? Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:34:56 +0200 Message-ID: <42CA7E70.7040308@student.lu.se> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120567302 1779 80.91.229.2 (5 Jul 2005 12:41:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 14:41:31 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpmif-00056z-6P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:40:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpmhg-0005IL-FO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpmh8-0005E7-CH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:38:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpmh3-0005CF-Eg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:38:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpmh2-0005A9-Oj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:38:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dpmjj-00069x-4m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:41:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.205.6) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 42BFBBD20018A5F9; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:34:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: "Jan D." In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40414 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40414 Jan D. wrote: >> After an exchange of comments on the Emacs wiki, that left me =20 >> wondering... >> >> Is there any place in the Emacs documentation that explains that you >> *can* type C-M-@, C-@, C-M-\, C-\ and C-] on an AltGr-challenged >> keyboard, *provided* that you use the right order, i.e., AltGr, right >> Ctrl, and then the modified key? >> >> For example, on my Spanish keyboard: >> >> C-M-@ =3D> AltGr RCtrl Alt 2 >> C-@ =3D> AltGr RCtrl 2 >> C-M-\ =3D> AltGr RCtrl Alt =BA >> C-\ =3D> AltGr RCtrl =BA >> C-] =3D> AltGr RCtrl + >> >> It is non-obvious: it doesn't work if you press other key before >> AltGr, or if you use left control. > > > > I suspect this is keyboard dependent. I do C-\ all the time with =20 > both right and left control, and I press Ctrl-AltGr-+ (hold down all =20 > three keys at the same time, which I press first or last does not =20 > matter) on my swedish keyboard (and add Alt to that, i.e. Alt-Ctrl-=20 > AltGr-+, gets me M-C-\, but it is not very ergonomic). The trick =20 > above does not work for me at all.=20 What OS I you using? Which version of Emacs?