From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tooltip-use-echo-area disappeared Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:38:41 +0100 Message-ID: <42AD7E51.4000506@gnu.org> References: <429EBEBF.4080005@gnu.org> <17054.53387.737275.879063@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <1117715090.429efa926ded0@webmail.freedom2surf.net> <17055.728.887711.842945@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118666662 4612 80.91.229.2 (13 Jun 2005 12:44:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 13 14:44:19 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhoHq-0005cw-Ru for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:43:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhoMd-00026T-Nm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:48:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DhoJE-0000bD-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:44:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DhoJA-0000ZF-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:44:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhoJ7-0000Lr-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:44:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.207.198.106] (helo=exchange.integrasp.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DhoDg-0000ey-RW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:39:13 -0400 Original-Received: from ASSP-nospam (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by exchange.integrasp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MGCRL44T; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:36:11 +0100 Original-Received: from 10.10.5.77 ([10.10.5.77] helo=[10.10.5.77]) by ASSP-nospam ; 13 Jun 05 12:36:10 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Nick Roberts In-Reply-To: <17055.728.887711.842945@farnswood.snap.net.nz> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38713 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38713 Nick Roberts wrote: >jasonr@f2s.com writes: > > > It appears to have been moved from tooltip.el where it was preloaded, to > > gud.el, so if gud is not loaded it has as good as disappeared. > > > > I don't understand this decision. Why is this now considered a gud specific > > feature? It was formerly a user option to have messages appear in the echo > > area rather than as a tooltip. What is gud specific about that? > >Setting tooltip-use-echo-area to t meant that normal (and GUD) tooltip >strings were displayed in the echo area i.e not really as tooltips. >They can now be displayed there independently. For GUD tooltips set >gud-tooltip-echo-area to t. For normal (help) tooltips, just turn >tooltip-mode off. > > Meanwhile, tooltip-use-echo-area has been abducted by gud for use as an alias, breaking existing code that assumed it was a general user option for controlling the display of tooltips. Shouldn't turning tooltip-mode off disable tooltips completely, whether they are displayed in frames or the echo area?