From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Manuel Uberti Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GUI X-FreeDesktop integration Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 14:42:29 +0200 Message-ID: <426d7c4d-a1fc-ba02-650e-e8c3259aacaa@inventati.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8896"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 To: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 12 14:45:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mEA5r-00021q-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 14:45:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55754 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mEA5q-0003OS-0o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:45:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mEA2s-0001ce-1H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:42:50 -0400 Original-Received: from confino.investici.org ([2a00:c38:11e:ffff::a020]:24241) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mEA2l-0005Tt-SL; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.investici.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by confino.investici.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GlmYL5fQ7z10wb; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 12:42:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inventati.org; s=stigmate; t=1628772150; bh=0BGTNItFOuYPjSfa0NkN4VxO9XSmxnsASHBGxbEUcN4=; h=To:References:From:Subject:Date:From; b=TdppFdBrs9AcjXvWzPB6IFPohKt5MmZUANJQi1r7JakzeahifMOrV52nfnK6QfiQ/ pWjycQlJwv6NQCHkU3ZhZy1x4/ScewQWxEjDnw2yemIN4y1bXaHVip9QNdZSE1/1IT dNhPTgKNeV+3N0NU+GzGkuhjku5ChqQVMxaSoeCw= Original-Received: from [212.103.72.250] (mx1.investici.org [212.103.72.250]) (Authenticated sender: manuel.uberti@inventati.org) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4GlmYL4VYrz10v2; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 12:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Content-Language: en-GB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:c38:11e:ffff::a020; envelope-from=manuel.uberti@inventati.org; helo=confino.investici.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272351 Archived-At: > I hear quite a few people run at least two instances of Emacs, for > example if they don't want Gnus fetching new articles and email to > freeze the interactive session for prolonged times. And there can > be other similar reasons to do the same. > > We don't automatically make new options be the default unless the > old behavior makes absolutely no sense or is otherwise dangerous or > not useful. I don't see this case matching any of that, so IMO we > shouldn't make this behavior the default right away. > > Does anyone else have an opinion on this aspect? Sorry if I did not follow this thread before and ended up opening bug #49505. As stated there, if possible I'd like to keep the old behaviour on left-click (new Emacs instance) and offering an 'Emacs (client)' option on right-click. The change was a bit of surprise for me, and it took some adjustments on my side: - I have two launchers now in GNOME Activities overview when I type 'emacs': 'Emacs' and 'Emacs (Client)' - Whichever I add to my favourites, the dock bar shows 'Emacs (Client)' - It's only by right-clicking on that 'Emacs (Client)' and picking 'New Instance' that I get the Emacs instance I was used to. Another way is not using the launcher in the dock, but left-clicking on the 'Emacs' launcher in GNOME Activities overview. - For now my workaround has been using a keyboard shortcut ('s-e') to open 'emacs', but yes, this was kind of an undesired change. -- Manuel Uberti www.manueluberti.eu