From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Splitting and moving generic.el. Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:05:53 +0100 Message-ID: <42661B71.6010504@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113988050 9860 80.91.229.2 (20 Apr 2005 09:07:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 20 11:07:25 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOBAe-0001nq-5B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:06:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOBF7-0008CN-UE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DOBDx-0007ne-FH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:10:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DOBDu-0007ms-C5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:10:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOBDt-0007j1-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:10:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.207.198.106] (helo=exchange.integrasp.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DOBBq-0003c0-Aq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ASSP-nospam (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by exchange.integrasp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 2RRVL8FN; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:04:47 +0100 Original-Received: from 217.205.90.2 ([217.205.90.2] helo=[10.10.5.77]) by ASSP-nospam ; 20 Apr 05 09:04:47 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Emacs Devel X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36148 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36148 For some reason I'm missing all mail to emacs-devel between 4 April and 8 April, so I had to look into the archives to find this being discussed. 2005-04-05 Lute Kamstra * generic.el: Commentary section cleanup. (generic): Delete. (generic-use-find-file-hook, generic-lines-to-scan) (generic-find-file-regexp, generic-ignore-files-regexp) (default-generic-mode, generic-mode-find-file-hook) (generic-mode-ini-file-find-file-hook): Move to generic-x.el. * generic-x.el (generic-x): Docstring fix. Put it in the data group. (generic-use-find-file-hook, generic-lines-to-scan) (generic-find-file-regexp, generic-ignore-files-regexp) (default-generic-mode, generic-mode-find-file-hook) (generic-mode-ini-file-find-file-hook): Moved from generic.el. This change seems to have caused problems. The only reference in my .emacs to generic is a (require 'generic-x) which used to give me some extra generic based modes. Now it just gives me an error: Loading generic...done An error has occured while loading ~/.emacs: Symbol's value as variable is void: default-generic-mode As an aside, I've found Emacs to be less stable since the feature freeze was declared than it has been since the early days of 21.0 development. I have very little time to spend on Emacs and the little time I have is spent tracking down the cause of problems like this leaving no time for any real bugfixing on the Windows port. I don't know what the answer is to this, but I'm finding it frustrating that after a year of feature freeze, people are still shuffling code around between files and directories and renaming variables while the manuals still need more proofreading and real bugs need fixing.