Andrew, I too would ask that you reconsider. I am a recent convert to EMACS and as you can see I only use a Macintosh and OSX. I would gladly take your place or help you out but I am just a neophyte when it comes to C and Lisp (I work in Forth and Open Firmware :). While I like the X version the problems of cut and paste (among others) between the OSX and X versions makes it too cumbersome for me to use. So please please stay on board, I was so much looking forward to 21.4! On Nov 04, 2003, at 16:19, Kim F. Storm wrote: Andrew Choi < writes: Perhaps it is best if I'm relieved from being the Mac maintainer. I program for the love of programming and not for any other reasons. Lucida Grande--- davec@apple.com