Re: obscure Emacs redisplay bug (Windows?)

Re: obscure Emacs redisplay bug (Windows?)

[Kim F. Storm]

"Martin Rudalics" <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

>> Do you get a menu-bar if you start emacs -q ?
>
> No.
>

No menu-bar on windows -- that's very odd.
Sounds like the version you got is hoaxed?

>>
>> If you do, something in your .emacs disables the menu-bar.
>>
>
> I don't get a menubar without any .emacs at all.
>
>>
>> I don't know what happens here.
>>
>> Can you produce a self-contained test that can demonstrate the problem?
>>
>
> I shall send you my 7000 lines code and the necessary instructions.

I will look at it...

>
>> >                            Finally, I noticed that my display flickers
>> > more frequently - in particular when I display a customization buffer in
>> > a subwindow.
>>
>> I'm not that familiar with the Windows port, but others have reported
>> flickering problems - especially with tooltips and the toolbar updates --
>> that still need to be investigated.
>>
>
> Customization buffers - that seems more related to widgets, buttons
> and the like.  However, intuitively I would say that windows refresh
> more frequently - likely my code is responsible for it (windows
> means individual Emacs windows).

Could be...

>
>> > I shall tell you more when I have managed to get this Emacs more stable:
>> > While I wrote these lines it has crashed my Windows twice and does very
>> > strange things with my harddisk whenever it starts up.  Once more,
>> > thanks for your help,
>>
>> What version of windows?
>
> Windows ME (as long as Emacs doesn't crash it)

No wonder... Windows ME is the worst version ever -- very unstable.

>
>> Where did you get the pre-built emacs ?
>
> http://nqmacs.sourceforge.net/
>
>>
>> Maybe it was built in a special way?
>>
>
> `emacs-version' gives me
>
> GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-windows98.3000) of 2005-01-30 on NONIQPC

Anybody else tried that version with good results?

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

Re: obscure Emacs redisplay bug (Windows?)

[Stephan Stahl]

Hi Kim.

storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) said:
>>> Maybe it was built in a special way?
>>>
>>
>> `emacs-version' gives me
>>
>> GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-windows98.3000) of 2005-01-30 on NONIQPC
>
> Anybody else tried that version with good results?

I'm using the same version (but running wxp):
GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2005-01-30 on NONIQPC
and emacs -q --no-site-init shows a menubar.

Stephan
-- 
Stephan Stahl

Re: obscure Emacs redisplay bug (Windows?)

[Stephan Stahl]

Hi Kim.

storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) said:
>>> Maybe it was built in a special way?
>>>
>>
>> `emacs-version' gives me
>>
>> GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-windows98.3000) of 2005-01-30 on NONIQPC
>
> Anybody else tried that version with good results?

I'm using the same version (but running wxp):
GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2005-01-30 on NONIQPC
and emacs -q --no-site-init shows a menubar.

Stephan
-- 
Stephan Stahl

Re: obscure Emacs redisplay bug (Windows?)

[Jason Rumney]

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Kim F. Storm wrote:

>"Martin Rudalics" <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:
>
>  
>
>>>Do you get a menu-bar if you start emacs -q ?
>>>      
>>>
>>No.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>No menu-bar on windows -- that's very odd.
>Sounds like the version you got is hoaxed?
>
>  
>
>>Windows ME (as long as Emacs doesn't crash it)
>>    
>>
It is probably related to the Unicode menu support. Windows 95/98/ME 
don't support Unicode in menus, and there may be something wrong with 
the way we detect that. In fact it might have already been fixed since 
Jan 30, as I remember a report of this on Windows 98 once before, and I 
think someone was taking a look at it.

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