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From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, yamaoka@jpl.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: undo in loaddefs.el buffer
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:21:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41CFE247.8090409@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200412270231.iBR2VDE19709@raven.dms.auburn.edu>

Luc Teirlinck wrote:

>   This way of popping down the dialog has been replaced by popping down by 
>   pressing ESC, which is more in line with what other applications and 
>   toolkits use.
>
>"Popping down" means returning nil, which for y-or-n-p and yes-or-no-p
>means answering "No".  Anybody who uses the escape key as a Meta key
>can easily answer "No" without wanting to do that.  This is especially
>bad for yes-or-no-p which, according to the Elisp manual is meant for
>"crucial decisions".  Intuitively, one would expect "popping down" to
>mean quitting, not answering "No".  This peculiar behavior is not
>documented in the docstrings of y-or-n-p and yes-or-no-p.  I could not
>find any reference to it in the Elisp manual.
>
>Apparently, some users expect C-g to _really_ quit from a dialog box,
>like it quits in the minibuffer.  Instead, it is treated like any
>other key.
>

To have ESC or Ctrl-g (basically any close without using dialog buttons, 
for example clicking on a window manager close button in the title) do a 
real quit for a dialog box sounds like a very good idea.  I think it is 
easy to do, because for lucid and lesstif/motif you can already quit 
dialogs with Ctrl-g (i.e. a real quit), but only if the focus is on the 
frame, not the dialog.  We should make this consistent.

For the original case (quitting out of the undo question), that would be 
an improvement as you could continue to hit Ctrl-g until all questions 
are gone :-).  It is a strange case.  I have to hit Ctrl-g three times 
for the yes-or-no question in the minibuffer to be canceled, but then a 
yes-or-no dialog pops up.  It is the same behaviour regardless of toolkit.

     Jan D.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-27 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-21 14:14 undo in loaddefs.el buffer Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-21 15:41 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-22  4:31   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-12-22  4:58     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-12-23  0:01     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-23  0:26       ` David Kastrup
2004-12-25 15:13         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-24  1:45     ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-24 21:39       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-26  9:14         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-27  5:29           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-27 22:35             ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-24 23:59       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-25 15:12       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-26  2:06         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-26  2:32           ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-26  3:59             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-27  2:40             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-27 20:16               ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-28  4:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-27  4:09             ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-26 16:15           ` Jan D.
2004-12-27  2:31             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-27 10:21               ` Jan D. [this message]
2004-12-27 11:05                 ` Jan D.
2004-12-27 22:35                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-28 13:16                   ` Jan D.
2004-12-28 20:57                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-29 12:59                       ` Jan D.
2004-12-28  5:03                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-28 17:25                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-29  2:07                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-29 20:46                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-30  1:14                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-30 16:43                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-31  1:54                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-31  9:22                               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-31 15:04                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-01  5:25                                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-02 16:02                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-03  0:58                                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04  3:07                                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 17:00                                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-31  2:14                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-30  5:06                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-30 20:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-27 18:05             ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-27 19:33               ` Jan D.
2004-12-28  4:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-28  8:11                   ` Jan D.
2004-12-28 21:05                 ` Jason Rumney
2004-12-29 23:22                   ` Jan D.
2004-12-27  4:09           ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-27  4:42             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-26  2:43         ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-27  4:09           ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04  9:05     ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-21 21:57 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-12-22  0:17   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-22  0:17 ` Richard Stallman

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