From: dapfy@t-online.de (Daniel Pfeiffer)
Cc: juri@jurta.org, occitan@esperanto.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk
Subject: Re: [Emacs-trunk-diffs] Changes to emacs/lisp/faces.el
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:41:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41BE288F.4040809@t-online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1CdwE6-0005R2-Rz@fencepost.gnu.org>
la 13.12.2004 20:51 Richard Stallman skribis:
> I don't understand the point of having a mechanism, if it's not supposed
> to used.
>
>That is not what I said. Using a display table is somewhat costly
>so I don't want to use it *by default all the time.*
>
>
Well, ok, if the new way is cheaper.
> For another you make all parts of the glyph the same, instead of just
> the escape, such that they become hard to tell apart.
>
>Yes, I think it makes more sense that way. In \208, all four of the
>characters are part of a single escape sequence. I think it is better
>to highlight them all the same way.
>
>
I guess I can cope with the new behaviour (which was never that of the
display table, however). But then you must rename the face once more.
>However, if lots of people prefer to highlight just the first
>char, I won't insist.
>
>
Nevertheless I would prefer this ;-)
> And you forgot sticky space and soft hyphen, which now again look
> identical to their non-special counterparts.
>
>I don't know what you're talking about, here. This feature was
>supposed to be for escape sequences, characters not actually in the
>text.
>
>
Display tables offered a convenient way to tell apart two very different
kinds of spaces/hyphens. As DEL is ^?, I made these to be '\ ' and '\-'
(make that '^ ' and '^-' if you prefer), to see at the first look that
they are not space or hyphen. The leading escape would then have this face.
> As for ellipses, there
> should at least be a simple option.
>
>I agree with the person who didn't want them highlighted.
>
>
Including mine, there are already two votes for highlighting.
> Alas they no
> longer combine with other faces, such as selection, which is a giant
> step backwards.
>
>I do not understand. What do you mean?
>
Open a binary file, and apply some face (like mouse drag) to a region
with intermittent special glyphs. Even though selection or bold do not
collide with the default face you chose, only the normal characters get
this face. That way it is impossible to see where the bounds of the
selection are.
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[not found] ` <E1Ca4Kt-00067g-EH@fencepost.gnu.org>
2004-12-03 9:18 ` [Emacs-trunk-diffs] Changes to emacs/lisp/faces.el Kim F. Storm
2004-12-04 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-05 17:52 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-05 18:32 ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-06 1:40 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-07 22:40 ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-07 23:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-08 8:47 ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-08 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-08 22:15 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-08 22:15 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-12 9:19 ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-13 9:03 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-13 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-13 19:51 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-13 23:41 ` Daniel Pfeiffer [this message]
2004-12-14 23:22 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-17 0:54 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-19 9:41 ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-21 11:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-23 20:39 ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-14 12:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-15 10:56 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-15 11:21 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-15 12:01 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15 14:58 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-15 16:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-15 20:35 ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-24 2:28 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-24 13:26 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-26 19:42 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-27 8:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-27 19:53 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-27 22:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-27 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-28 17:25 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-28 2:38 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-28 4:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-28 7:52 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-28 20:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-29 0:22 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-29 4:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-30 7:33 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-30 14:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2004-12-30 16:33 ` Drew Adams
2004-12-30 20:59 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-28 4:57 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-25 15:12 ` Richard Stallman
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