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> On Jan 2, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:
>=20
>> I don=E2=80=99t have any problem of adding it to core. I=E2=80=99m =
just pessimistic
>> about how many people are incentivized to push for it and agree on
>> things.
>=20
> I am incentivized to both push for and agree on things.  ;-)
>=20
> More seriously, you already had Eli agree that this does belong in =
core,
> so I think the process should be rather smooth sailing, especially if =
we
> try to make the first step as uncontroversial as possible.

Thanks. I=E2=80=99m happy to work on that.

>> Putting it on ELPA doesn=E2=80=99t stop from working it into core, I =
think. I
>> don=E2=80=99t want to get into another 1000-thread debate about what =
is the
>> =E2=80=9Cminimal set=E2=80=9D. Many of the stuff in setup-wizard.el =
are not easily
>> agreed upon, but removing them IMO decreases the usefulness of
>> setup-wizard.
>=20
> How about putting the uncontroversial part in core, and creating a =
more
> opinionated/useful add-on to put in GNU ELPA?  Then you can do =
basically
> whatever you think is best in your add-on, while all new users still
> benefit from the less opinionated/useful part that we put in core.
>=20
> I am also not eager to get into a 1000-thread debate, but here are my
> observations on the points you bring up:
>=20
>> For example, the =E2=80=9Cwizards=E2=80=99 choice=E2=80=9D binding =
scheme,
>=20
> Could you expand on what this means?

Binding copy, cut and paste to s-c, s-x, s-v, respectively. It might not =
always work since some window managers intercept the super modifier =
bindings, but otherwise I think they could be useful. I use them myself =
from time to time.=20

>=20
>> the option to turn off menu-bar,
>=20
> I have no opinion on whether or not this should be part of an initial
> setup wizard.
>=20
>> the recommendation of ivy and company.
>=20
> These sound good to me.  Does the wizard also help install the =
packages,
> and say clearly that this is about to happen?

Yes and yes, Po suggested stating clearly that packages are downloaded =
automatically from the Internet. I added some words that say that.

Yuan