From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package: vertico Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:48:08 +0000 Message-ID: <3ec7e2e58a3ac3b7e852@heytings.org> References: <9c9af088-580f-9fb1-4d79-237a74ce605c@inventati.org> <874kgkxxs0.fsf@posteo.net> <3ec7e2e58a100426a22e@heytings.org> <877dleb2px.fsf@posteo.net> <3ec7e2e58a3f78988f11@heytings.org> <87ft025b42.fsf@posteo.net> <3ec7e2e58ab0222dab44@heytings.org> <87v98ykn6c.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28855"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 07 19:50:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUCJh-0007OU-69 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 19:50:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58562 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUCJg-0004ts-5V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:50:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46632) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUCHm-0000cy-7o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:48:14 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:32774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUCHi-0002Yi-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:48:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1617817688; bh=9yHl4v0QLPUNse1a2Y6oEtANMliRzfb5VMgHrhD+MfI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=PRgkWFtYkbRsH5CDRSbczHz8aI2BC7Rmkpcxis0POIrnlgxmQVYvrpQMZDRVCFOJ8 LZBWeH4xllK1KtcZbqhRTD8vYrtLqIeK84xN6cJXwoBNxxK7hiyUMqGIhPqS+ok/i/ JLWmqa0IhXX0IG7TG4fuUmNXoRhOzKk6H1eF9WwelCOI+mZgEruG2+RtHfmYI1ihWW voCq0rihQQvLETzC3ftpQ/u8fHiF+CKenoDNbSH1AE3HT5bCRv02JyNHcSdjl3Jswo aty+b5VUfVsbyt2Ph4I5Qbwxz3t8Lq8n+6lsAytsMghiaWNTAuvYnivRUn3H7qaHOK xgzcmexytosAA== In-Reply-To: <87v98ykn6c.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267547 Archived-At: >>>> 1. It seems to me that the UI you have in mind is closer to >>>> 'transient' than to 'completing-read'. >>> >>> Perhaps, but my understanding of transient is that it tries to be a >>> better C-u. >> >> By 'transient', I meant the ELPA transient package. My understanding >> is that it makes it possible to navigate through a tree, with a visual >> feedback in a popup buffer. > > But transient popups are static, right? You (usually) wouldn't compute > them on the fly. I get what you mean from the UI perspective, I don't > think that transient would be a good basis for something like > selecting-read. > Yes, I meant something like the transient UI, but computed on the fly. I wasn't suggesting to use transient as a basis for something else, my remark was only about the look of the UI.